Josep Maria Bartomeu

[DonAK]

If it is proved that Rosell and co created all these smaller contracts with the intention of hiding money(tax evasion) which looks damn bad right now then how can you even try to justify that?

The funny thing is that they tried to underreport the amount of money we paid for Neymar which is bad enough as it is, but also failed in hiding it

Losers.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Wow at people trying to shift the blame.

As much as some of you hate spain and madrid, Barto and Rosell did illegal things. That's the only thing that matters.

Did anyone deny their wrong-doings? All we are saying is that Madrid and the Spanish media are seizing upon this perfect opportunity, again, created by the board to try to destroy us.

Is that not true? How is that shifting blame?

And is there anything in their rule book that says we will be relegated to Segunda, if the club is found guilty?

 

[DonAK]

Did anyone deny their wrong-doings? All we are saying is that Madrid and the Spanish media are seizing upon this perfect opportunity, again, created by the board to try to destroy us.

Is that not true? How is that shifting blame?

And is there anything in their rule book that says we will be relegated to Segunda, if the club is found guilty?

And what is the point? The board gave them the opportunity to do so. Media is doing what media have been doing for decades. Nothing new or special. It's this board's failures which have enabled them to do so.

No one will go to jail or nothing major is gonna come out of this. A slap on the wrist if they're found guilty(big fine I guess) and the case will be done and dusted.

 

[Bertus]

Did anyone deny their wrong-doings? All we are saying is that Madrid and the Spanish media are seizing upon this perfect opportunity, again, created by the board to try to destroy us.

Is that not true? How is that shifting blame?

And is there anything in their rule book that says we will be relegated to Segunda, if the club is found guilty?

Listen, FWIW they discussed about it on french radio today and the penalties we're facing are the same as what you can get in France.

Actually it's worse, clubs ended up demoted to amateur leagues here in France for less than that. And some of you want to flee to Ligue 1? Here the state is NOT forgiving like Spain can be.

Whatever you think about Madrid doesn't change that we face those penalties because that's the laws.

And pretending madrid hates us has nothing to do with it. People blame Madrid as if they make up laws on the spot.

FFS? Rosell knew what the laws were when he signed neymar. RM didn't create them just now to penalize us.

 

[Luftstalag14]

And what is the point? The board gave them the opportunity to do so. Media is doing what media have been doing for decades. Nothing new or special. It's this board's failures which have enabled them to do so.

No one will go to jail or nothing major is gonna come out of this. A slap on the wrist if they're found guilty(big fine I guess) and the case will be done and dusted.

People are simply stating two different facts:

Fact A: Rosell/Bartomeu engaged in shady business regarding Neymar's deal which tarnished our reputation and jeopardized our future

Fact B: Madrid and the Spanish media will seize upon this opportunity and probably will blow everything out of proportion to further tarnish our club's reputation and they will try to do everything they can to take advantage of this mess created by our board

 

[Bertus]

And what is the point? The board gave them the opportunity to do so. Media is doing what media have been doing for decades. Nothing new or special. It's this board's failures which have enabled them to do so.

No one will go to jail or nothing major is gonna come out of this. A slap on the wrist if they're found guilty(big fine I guess) and the case will be done and dusted.

Maybe it can end up like that in Spain, and people should feel lucky Barca is not a french club then.

Here clubs, big or not are treated the same way. marseille ended up demoted to amateur league after games fraud.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Listen, FWIW they discussed about it on french radio today and the penalties we're facing are the same as what you can get in France.

Actually it's worse, clubs ended up demoted to amateur leagues here in France for less than that. And some of you want to flee to Ligue 1? Here the state is NOT forgiving like Spain can be.

Whatever you think about Madrid doesn't change that we face those penalties because that's the laws.

And pretending madrid hates us has nothing to do with it. People blame Madrid as if they make up laws on the spot.

FFS? Rosell knew what the laws were when he signed neymar. RM didn't create them just now to penalize us.

OK, Segunda here we come.

We will fight our way back to La Liga.

 

[Bertus]

People are simply stating two different facts:

Fact A: Rosell/Bartomeu engaged in shady business regarding Neymar's deal which tarnished our reputation and jeopardized our future

Fact B: Madrid and the Spanish media will seize upon this opportunity and probably will blow everything out of proportion to further tarnish our club's reputation and they will try to do everything they can to take advantage of this mess created by our board

Fact C: if we're penalized, that will because we were judged based on the current spanish laws, not because of Madrid medias.

 

[Bertus]

OK, Segunda here we come.

We will fight our way back to La Liga.

I don't know how the state can be forgiving in spain, maybe it can end up with a slap like DonAK said.

I just stated we should feel lucky to not be a french club because we would be demoted to amateur league despite being a world class club.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Fact C: if we're penalized, that will because we were judged based on the current spanish laws, not because of Madrid medias.

OK, fair enough.

Calling experts in Spanish laws out there.... Anyone knows anything about exactly what the stipulations are?

 

[JamDav1982]

I don't know how the state can be forgiving in spain, maybe it can end up with a slap like DonAK said.

I just stated we should feel lucky to not be a french club because we would be demoted to amateur league despite being a world class club.

What clubs in France have had that fate and what were they found guilty of?

 

[messi2140]

OK, Segunda here we come.

We will fight our way back to La Liga.

The long awaited El Clásico

Real Madrid Castilla vs FC Barcelona.

 

[Bertus]

What clubs in France have had that fate and what were they found guilty of?

Lately, a club from Ligue 2 was demoted to amateur league because they were charged with one game fraud.

They were judged on the fact that they sent lots of Bordeaux wine as payment

Here you would laugh, but here that's how it is.

Marseille is the biggest case however. Despite winning the CL, they got demoted to amateur league in the past because of one game fraud with the club of Valencienne.

Marseille is facing the same fate right now for the same shaddy deal as neymar's here.

Last week, Marseille Boss was brought to police again for questionning about shaddy transfers deals.

 

[Ghostmaster]

OK, Segunda here we come.

We will fight our way back to La Liga.

MSN will beast in Segunda and biggest match in the season will be FC Barcelona vs Barcelona Barty1:

 

[JamDav1982]

And what is the point? The board gave them the opportunity to do so. Media is doing what media have been doing for decades. Nothing new or special. It's this board's failures which have enabled them to do so.

No one will go to jail or nothing major is gonna come out of this. A slap on the wrist if they're found guilty(big fine I guess) and the case will be done and dusted.

Thats correct that the media are only highlighting the problem but do people take that attitude when the Madrid press attack the Messi camp for not paying his taxes? Are his team called corrupt and guilty of destroying his reputation and potentially putting him behind bars.

So many hypocrites - when the media expose things people dont like then it is 'Franco Govt', 'Madrid bias' ect. Yet when the same media expose things that people like then this is suddenly the honest media exposing the wrong doings.