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linetty
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If he wins against Atleti on Sunday in a good style then maybe he's getting his shit together. I can't wait to see how he prepares the team,
Luis Enrique
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The problem is that whole team has declined. Valdes gone, Alves now compared to then is a joke, Puyol gone, Pique not the same without Puyol, Mascherano still not a centre back, Abidal gone, Busquets a big drop off from previous levels partly due to increased workload due to decline of others, Xavi is on his last legs, Iniesta a shadow of the player he was under Pep, same with Pedro. Villa has gone.
There's only Messi who's still close to the level he was in 2011.
Neymar and Suarez may be an upgrade on Pedro and Villa but the midfield is broken and the defence has been awful since 2011. We haven't signed a good enough midfielder to compensate for Xavi and Iniesta ageing. Cesc didn't cut it or was misused and Rakitic doesn't look like the answer.
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instinct
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You are talking like you stood there in the room while Enrique snubbed Kroos and chose Rakitic. There is no evidence whatsoever that the choices were made by Enrique.We have seen dumb decisions year after year from this board, but for some reason you want hang all the blame on Lucho without having any basis for that. So the guy doesn't have a decent midfield and it's mostly not his fault - what's up with the comments "he doesn't know how to play the midfield"? By all mean he should be criticized for the mistakes he makes, but doesn't mean we should blame him for everything.
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Flavia
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There is plenty of evidence. If you followed the transfer window closely, you'd know that. Enrique didn't get just one ofthe players he wanted, Cuadrado. He got Bravo, Mathieu and Rakitic. Douglas and Vermaelen are Zubi's signs. Suarez is Bartomeu/Zubi, with enrique's approval. Kroos was snubbed, he wanted to come to Barça. If Enrique had wanted him, he'd be here. All these past months are showing Enrique is not a puppet, he's doing things his way.
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Flavia
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@xavitorresll · 11 min
Reunió Bartomeu-Messi ahir després del Barça-Elx. El president li deixa clar que està al seu costat en la guerra amb Luís Enrique (1).
Bartomeu no busca un tècnic per la secretaria tècnica sinó un tècnic q substitueixi Luis Enrique a la banqueta, a qui ha sentenciat ( i 2).
Meeting Bartomeu-Messi yesterday after the game against Elche. The President made clear that he is on Messi's side in the war with Luis Enrique (1).
Bartomeu is not looking for a sporting director, but a coach to replace Luis Enrique on the bench(2).
Xavi Torres is from TV3, but somehow I don't think this is true. Edit: Or it is true, sport and others started to retweet the news.
Reunió Bartomeu-Messi ahir després del Barça-Elx. El president li deixa clar que està al seu costat en la guerra amb Luís Enrique (1).
Bartomeu no busca un tècnic per la secretaria tècnica sinó un tècnic q substitueixi Luis Enrique a la banqueta, a qui ha sentenciat ( i 2).
Meeting Bartomeu-Messi yesterday after the game against Elche. The President made clear that he is on Messi's side in the war with Luis Enrique (1).
Bartomeu is not looking for a sporting director, but a coach to replace Luis Enrique on the bench(2).
Xavi Torres is from TV3, but somehow I don't think this is true. Edit: Or it is true, sport and others started to retweet the news.
Ursegor
World Champion
Obviously it's true. He's gone after Atletico, it's just not official yet so the first game of the new coach isn't Atletico Madrid. The meeting with Oscar Garcia which Bart didn't deny had nothing to do with the sporting director spot. Oscar Garcia is a coach, not a sporting director.
Cruijffista
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Yeah I don't believe for a second that Oscar Garcia is being considered to be the new sporting director. Bartomeu knows he has a campaign to put together and he very much has to look like he has on Messi's side here.
Here's a good article written on Oscar Garcia lately:
http://lucasammr.com/2015/01/09/oscar-garcia-junyent/
We are going to need a coach who believes in youth, as Adama, Samper, Deulofeu, and Denis Suarez will all have to be integrated into the team w/ the transfer ban.
Sign Garcia and then the new President and his board can reevaluate in the summer. It would certainly help ease the tensions between Lucho and the rest of the players, the atmosphere and vibe with Barca is all wrong right now IMO.
Here's a good article written on Oscar Garcia lately:
http://lucasammr.com/2015/01/09/oscar-garcia-junyent/
We are going to need a coach who believes in youth, as Adama, Samper, Deulofeu, and Denis Suarez will all have to be integrated into the team w/ the transfer ban.
Sign Garcia and then the new President and his board can reevaluate in the summer. It would certainly help ease the tensions between Lucho and the rest of the players, the atmosphere and vibe with Barca is all wrong right now IMO.
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Flavia
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Then maybe enrique's ultimatum was true. I don't think just pressure from the players would do it, Tata lasted the season.
Ursegor
World Champion
It's a bad example. Moyes took over champions of England and at this point last season had United in 8th place in the table. Lucho has taken over 2nd in La Liga and has them 2nd in La Liga 1 point (let's say 4 if they beat Espanyol) behind a Madrid team on a 22 game winning streak. Don't know why people are forcing these Moyes comparisons, it's childish. Barca are nowhere near as bad.
Chainsaw
Killahead
I donno why you keep playing this 'statistically speaking' card to keep prove Lucho is not doing a bad job. "Taken over the 2nd in La Liga and has them 2nd in La Liga". Should I credit Tata for having a weaker Barca at the first spot for the majority of last season ahead of two CL finalists Atletico and Real Madrid?
Moyes comparisons is not childish. You say the coaches should not be changed so quick for this and that like for example because the squad is not good enough. That was also one of the reasons Moyes defenders were saying in his defence and criticized the club for not supporting him. LvG had to make many changes to the squad to get better results. You don't think Lucho's Barca was going to be even lower if he didn't have the likes of Messi and Neymar in his team? You don't think such players are big difference makers for the spot Barca's occupying right now despite several poor games from the team?
Ursegor
World Champion
What better results?
Moyes after 20 games: 10 wins, 33:24 goal difference, 34 points
LvG after 20 games (and after spending € 150M on players): 10 wins, 34:20 goal difference, 37 points
Only difference is the teams around United have regressed mightily, especially Liverpool, Arsenal and Everton. If De Gea wasn't saving United's asses time and time again to the extend that every single United fan will cite him as their player of the season and shitting their pants that Madrid will snap him up LvG would probably be worse off. Not to mention his stubborn 3 man backline formation despite it not working, talking about "philosophy" after every game which no one can see on the pitch, leaving his favourite RvP on the pitch no matter what and whatnot. In their most recent game United managed whooping 6 shots total on + off target against Stoke City so they aren't playing fantasy football just without getting the results either. Only reason LvG is positively perceived is because he took over from Moyes. If he took over from SAF he would be the laughing stock now. So don't give me LvG as some sort of positive example.
I'm done with this thread. If Xavi Torres reports it he's definitely gone anyway. Will get back to you in a few months after Rakitic has turned into prime Xavi under Oscar Garcia.
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Flavia
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@Escolanmarca 12 minHá 12 minutos El FCB DESMIENTE categóricamente la información de TV3 sobre la reunión Bartomeu-Messi y las peticiones del argentino.
Guy from radio marca, saying the club has categorally sstated all TV3 told was a lie
There was no meeting, Enrique is staying, etc.
What a circus.
Guy from radio marca, saying the club has categorally sstated all TV3 told was a lie
There was no meeting, Enrique is staying, etc.
What a circus.
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