Luis Enrique

[DonAK]

This?

That's old though, so I don't know. Maybe a recurring issue?

Big Black wtf

 

[KingMessi]

Big Black wtf

I have no idea. That was random.

 

[DonAK]

Did Xavi Torres say that Lucho is a goner?

 

[Barcaman]

Ursegor is surely right in some points.

But Lucho has done a lot of bad things also.
On the other hand, I also agree that a new coach after Lucho WON'T fix our problems.
Our team is good only on paper. With a big "maybe".
MSN is not clicking yet properly.
-- maybe they just need more time, but maybe they will never click together, time will tell

-- we don't have a midfield, we don't have a DR at all, and DL Alba is not the smartest guy in the world
-- so, even with a new coach, we won't have a midfield, plus we won't have fullbacks who can contribute anything decent
-- that leaves us with MSN trio in attack to do something
-- so, those 3 players against 10 opponent's players, more or less, this is our game

While I'll also think that Tata was better than Lucho, but people have now started to hail Tata too much.
-- about Tata, have people forgot the last 3-4 Months of the last Season?
-- do you remember how we played in almost every match (ok, we didn't have the depth and we had some injuries), but we had a bunch of games which were the same as today under Lucho
-- in the last 10 matches in La liga, too many times we managed to create only 2-3 shots in 90 minutes, both home and away

So:
1. in Pep's last Season, our team started to lose "magic"
2. In Tito's season, we were still good enough to trash La Liga opponents
-- but our deficiencies started to show against any stronger opponent
= so, with Tito, we were still good/creative enough against smaller teams, but were not good enough anymore against any stronger side
3. with Tata, the trend and a decline continues
= everything from a previous year is only multiplied and getting worse
-- with Tito, we were good enough against smaller teams
-- under Tata, in the 2nd part of the Season, we weren't able anymore to create even 5 clear chances in one match, against any La liga opponent
-- against bigger teams, lol, we played like, what, 6 matches against Atletico without a win?
-- do people really think that it was just a coincidence?
4. Lucho, wasn't it logical that everything will be even worse, team wise
-- ok, Lucho is probably the worst coach in the last 4 Seasons, but still
-- even Pep would struggle today, with this DEAD team
-- the downhill trend continued: we were poor against weaker teams with Tata, and in this Season, we are even worse
-- at home, we are somewhat good
-- but on away matches, lol, 0:0, 1:0 and 0:1 all the time
-- again, do people seriously think that it is just a coincidence?

We can bring Pep, Van Gaal, Rijkaard tomorrow, it won't help.
This DEAD team will play more or less the same against any crappy opponent in away La liga matches.

Yesterday on some other topics me and some people said that maybe it will be a time soon to sell either Messi, or Iniesta+Xavi+Busi+Alves+Pedro+Alba and a lot of players. A lot of fans laughed to that idea saying that Xavi, Iniesta and other guys aren't finished yet and how we need only a better coach.

But then, it means that both Tito, Tata and Lucho were bad coaches since none of them managed to create "magic" again with this team.
Plus, our team is worse and worse each new Season, and more or less, each new month.
-- so:
1. the team is the same all the time
2. coaches change
= then either coaches were poor (and the team is fine), or this team has some serious problems

Now, we will get a new board this summer, and people are happy.
But what is the point of a new board and a new coach if we will continue with Xavi, Iniesta, Busi, Alves, Pique, Pedro and similar guys?
Ok, new board won't be as dumb as the current one and they won't pay 100 Millions for Neymar, and they won't buy players like Douglas, but still.

We need:
1. a new board
2. a new coach
3. new players
4. some new ideas

Our current players share a lot of guilt for our decline also.
Not only Tata or Lucho.

And again, no coach in the world will again turn Xavi, Iniesta, Alves, and probably Busi, Pique, Pedro and other guys into a world class players.

Good post. Agreed on most od your points.

 

[Neymessi]

Bartomeu (president): "Meeting with Messi about coach? Totally false. I just was in dressing-room for usual post-match chat with the group."

 

[hamad138]

Bartomeu (president): "Meeting with Messi about coach? Totally false. I just was in dressing-room for usual post-match chat with the group."

Says a corrupt Person and biggest liar in Barcelona. Whoever trust him is wrong

 

[Flavia]

Did Xavi Torres say that Lucho is a goner?

Yes. Bartomeu denied everything.

Xavi Torres wouldn't say it out of thin air, though. Someone leaked it, or made it up, and the goal can only be to piss off Messi, and make Barto look like a saint.

 

[JamDav1982]

Says a corrupt Person and biggest liar in Barcelona. Whoever trust him is wrong

So you think he was meeting Messi to discuss the coach? That doesnt reflect well on Messi and wont be the truth.

Bartomeu may be inept but what has he done to be 'Corrupt person and biggest liar in Barcelona'?

 

[FC B]

This?

That's old though, so I don't know. Maybe a recurring issue?

The keeper trainer is still with the club today ?

 

[JamDav1982]

Yes. Bartomeu denied everything.

Xavi Torres wouldn't say it out of thin air, though. Someone leaked it, or made it up, and the goal can only be to piss off Messi, and make Barto look like a saint.

Why would it piss off Messi and make Barto look a saint?

 

[Flavia]

Why would it piss off Messi and make Barto look a saint?

Messi "demanding" LE out in a private meeting, and Barto doing it looks like what? Someone leaked that, and if it's not true, what was the motivation?

 

[JamDav1982]

Messi "demanding" LE out in a private meeting, and Barto doing it looks like what? Someone leaked that, and if it's not true, what was the motivation?

You are assuming someone from club leaked it??

There are thousand of lies told every day by people that have no clue and the official club position has been to deny it.

This place is like a 9/11 conspiracy site at times it feels!

 

[Flavia]

You are assuming someone from club leaked it??

There are thousand of lies told every day by people that have no clue and the official club position has been to deny it.

This place is like a 9/11 conspiracy site at times it feels!

This forum is light compared to what is going on Twitter, Jamdav. Xavi Torres has a name, he wouldn't say anything if his source wasn't trustworthy. Don't forget elections were called. There are many theories flying around, like a board member leaked the info. Vilarrubi, faus, freixa... could've been anyone. The thing is there was a leak.

 

[iniesta_8]

MESSI sacks LE

 

[JamDav1982]

This forum is light compared to what is going on Twitter, Jamdav. Xavi Torres has a name, he wouldn't say anything if his source wasn't trustworthy. Don't forget elections were called. There are many theories flying around, like a board member leaked the info. Vilarrubi, faus, freixa... could've been anyone. The thing is there was a leak.

I dont doubt it happened but I dont think they would leak it than deny it to make Messi look bad and Barto good.

As it doesnt make Barto look good to have a player dictating to him. It makes it seem Messi is in control which looks bad on everyone.

Also there is absolutely no reason to piss Messi off. None whatsoever. They need him happy if nothing else for the duleded belief they will win elections.