Luis Enrique

[bismp]

if lucho fail to win the league, should he go out from barca?

It's not about losing the league.It's about the way that we will lose it(most likely).Can you trust a man that blew away a +10 point lead,that still makes the stupid mistakes he did last year?

Plus it seems that he may have lost the locker room

 

[6 Ballons for Messi]

Lucho has no place in barca after june.
Bring in valverde.

 

[bismp]

Also, it's funny how some members are saying we are still okay for the League. The same shit was said during Tata's season, with many users thinking we will easily make a comeback in our last 3-2 matches of that season. Feels like deja vu.

+1

 

[6 Ballons for Messi]

Btw one of barca's greatest strengths last season was that the team would shift a gear up after the first hour of play, it was kinda bizarre because you expect the opposite to happen.
Well this isn't happening this season and especially these last few months, the team looks dead tired in the last 20-30mins.
Conditioning the players is imo lucho's greatest quality and if he can't do that there's little else he can offer as manager.

 

[Richard.H]

Btw one of barca's greatest strengths last season was that the team would shift a gear up after the first hour of play, it was kinda bizarre because you expect the opposite to happen.
Well this isn't happening this season and especially these last few months, the team looks dead tired in the last 20-30mins.
Conditioning the players is imo lucho's greatest quality and if he can't do that there's little else he can offer as manager.

More substitutions last season with constant rotations. You don't see as many subs/rotations this season as last season.

 

[mazp]

Saw this on twitter:

"Neymar-Suarez-Messi played 16058 mins in past 12 mths
Bayern's front 3? 13593
City's? 11274
Real Madrid's? 10249
Atletico's? 9843"

 

[Jamie Cal]

Btw one of barca's greatest strengths last season was that the team would shift a gear up after the first hour of play, it was kinda bizarre because you expect the opposite to happen.
Well this isn't happening this season and especially these last few months, the team looks dead tired in the last 20-30mins.
Conditioning the players is imo lucho's greatest quality and if he can't do that there's little else he can offer as manager.

True. I've said this in damn-near every thread now, because all our faults stem from lack of fitness. Mystifying how we could neglect that when it's the very thing that won us everything last season. To be fair, he definitely wanted Nolito badly, but even still, there's been plenty of moments to sub Munir in and he hasn't. Let alone that Muni's strike rate has been pretty decent in 2016.

I'm worried next season that Neymar will blow a fuse if subbed. He complained in public a lot about it last year and now his ego's even bigger.

 

[xXKonan]

When it comes to the collapse right now I won't put all the blame on Lucho.

The Ban fucked us completely along with Xavi and Pedro leaving and Rafinha having a long term injury, it took until January to actively play Arda and Vidal because of self inflicted gunshot wound Barcelona had inflicted on itself with the illegal transfers of minors.

Our transfer policy in the 2014/15 wasn't bad in any stretch but the Board and in Zubi's case signed two players that have no business being here aka Douglas and Verm who one was Injury prone and Inconsistent and another one who looked like a stupid cheap gamble in hopes he could turn out to be a gem.

This season the ban in effect and with Xavi Leaving and Pedro deciding to part ways it literally screwed us hard, Lucho took a gamble with having Sandro and Munir and Rafinha to fill in the gaps until at least January. Sandro didn't play well with the chances he gotten and the Same with Munir who struggled mightly when he played and Rafinha tore his ACL after being at the end of a wrong tackle.

So Fast Forward to January, Lucho wanted Nolito and Denis Suarez. It's obvious why he wanted them as both were having a great season in the League and would be great backups for the front three when they needed rest since we lost Pedro and Rafinha was still injured. But the board failed Lucho big time in this deal as we couldn't afford to buy anyone and with only a mere "3 Million" euro budget it was impossible to do any deal to get them.

Our squad has some talented players but we are also loaded with players that have since no business being here whatsoever. We lack good depth and it hurt us in the end as a lot of our players are burnt out and it's really no surprise we are our of the CL and struggling in the league.

We played some incredible football this season and when the team clicks its incredible but with the problems we had before and during the season I just can't put it all on Lucho. Realistically my criticisms with Lucho stem from.

1. Making subs that completely back fired (Deportivo,Villarreal) as we were winning and collapsed.

2. Perhaps not using Roberto enough during the second half of the season and only using him mostly as a RB, He would've been even more useful if he played in the Rakitic position and instead of Arda who doesn't fit the role.

3.Putting to much faith in guys like Adriano (probably not all his fault since it seems the board was hell bent on keeping him and instead of shipping him out).

4. Not putting more faith in Vidal considering it was his signing in the first place.

It's clear this summer we need a overhaul in several areas of the team.

1. LB

2. CB

3 Foward

4 Midfielder?

We seriously need to ship out the dead weight and get a real bench. It's stupid we are forced to use a Right footed CM as our LB backup because we don't have a real alternative to Alba who has been in terrible form for ages now.

Our CB situation isn't good either as our 3rd Choice CB who happens to be 32/33 suffered a torn meniscus and our 4th choice CB is injury prone and Inconstant at best and our 5th Choice CB isn't good enough to be a first choice CB. and Mascherano despite playing well is aging and he will need to be replaced eventually.

Forward wise Sandro will be shipped off next season and Munir improved but he could benefit from a loan. and we need a good Pedro like impact sub off the bench for Ney,Suarez and Messi.

Midfield wise is a tricky one, Samper will be promoted but it will all depend if Lucho wants to keep him here in the squad or loan him out.

 

[Jamie Cal]

"....2. Perhaps not using Roberto enough during the second half of the season and only using him mostly as a RB... "

You're a little off on this one. I'm pretty sure Roberto didn't play right back once in January and February thanks to Vidal. He played one in March (can't remember which but I was surprised he was picked ahead of Vidal), but obviously most games are Jan/Feb.

And the thing is, Dani was playing really then, he was outstanding against Arsenal and all because he had tons of rest and also actual competition. While Roberto has been great (apart from tonight imo) at right back, it was clearly he'd be used all over. Vidal was doing fine, a constant stream of 6 and 7s out of 10s, also has a nice few assists.

It's no surprise Dani has been woeful this month, he hasn't got the legs or competition for it right now.

 

[xXKonan]

"....2. Perhaps not using Roberto enough during the second half of the season and only using him mostly as a RB... "

You're a little off on this one. I'm pretty sure Roberto didn't play right back once in January and February thanks to Vidal. He played one in March (can't remember which but I was surprised he was picked ahead of Vidal), but obviously most games are Jan/Feb.

And the thing is, Dani was playing really then, he was outstanding against Arsenal and all because he had tons of rest and also actual competition. While Roberto has been great (apart from tonight imo) at right back, it was clearly he'd be used all over. Vidal was doing fine, a constant stream of 6 and 7s out of 10s, also has a nice few assists.

It's no surprise Dani has been woeful this month, he hasn't got the legs or competition for it right now.

Well I noticed before Vidal got injured he was dropped by Lucho in favor of Roberto at Right back. Not sure what happened there I don't think Vidal hasn't been playing as bad as some suggest even though ideally he needs to work on being better defensively.

You're correct though though. My criticism when Lucho Makes the Arda sub it's mostly for Rakitic, and I just don't feel like Arda can play his role, I feel like Arda is better suited to be a Iniesta sub than a Rakitic one and I consider Roberto to be a better Rakitic sub than Arda.

in Alves case, I think Lucho made a mistake in not preserving him more during the second half of the season considering the arrival of Vidal and Roberto playing well at RB. With him being 32/33 This year He doesn't have the legs to always play week in and out and he's better suited being played in a rotation and getting the rest he needs.

 

[Jamie Cal]

Well I noticed before Vidal got injured he was dropped by Lucho in favor of Roberto at Right back. Not sure what happened there I don't think Vidal hasn't been playing as bad as some suggest even though ideally he needs to work on being better defensively.

You're correct though though. My criticism when Lucho Makes the Arda sub it's mostly for Rakitic, and I just don't feel like Arda can play his role, I feel like Arda is better suited to be a Iniesta sub than a Rakitic one and I consider Roberto to be a better Rakitic sub than Arda.

in Alves case, I think Lucho made a mistake in not preserving him more during the second half of the season considering the arrival of Vidal and Roberto playing well at RB. With him being 32/33 This year He doesn't have the legs to always play week in and out and he's better suited being played in a rotation and getting the rest he needs.

Oh I totally agree. In fact, I said this in the Vidal thread at the start of April.

I thought it strange recently when Sergi Roberto was getting the nod to play at RB a few times recently. Not that Sergi is bad (obviously not), but you've got to wonder what Aleix's role is when that's happened.

This has come back to haunt us all over the field, really. It was happening back a few months, but really blew up in April.


And totally agree with Arda -- I said it before he even played for us that his skillset was more similar to Iniesta's, and maybe playing wide time to time. People roared back that because he played for battle-hardened Atleti that he'd be fine to replace Rak but that was never the case. And the reason he left Atleti was because he said he was tired from running too much! The stats about how many games Rak has played is staggering. Roberto has so much legs/energy, he's the perfect backup there.

 

[Barcilliant]

Lucho has no place in barca after june.
Bring in valverde.

Lol @ Valverde!!!

There are very few managers in world football who can handle the egos in the team.

Valverde is NOT ONE OF THEM!

 

[Gaudi]

I don't think of Lucho much different today, and noone can forget last year and all, but he'll have to go at the end. We're going to lose every title most likely and that meltodown will follow us if he stays. Having said that I'm not sure LE is to blame completely...well, yes coach needs to step us and not just use same frases on how we learn and so on...but I really thought that players who won so much are winners in their hart and not such, well, pussies...no matter who the coach is. As it looks they won so much because od immense talent, but in mental department they are not that good. I always thought RM has this diva like mindset but It looks I was wrong, we're the ones.
This is no fatigue, FIFA virus, nothing, this is pure and complete mental meltodwn, complete fear is running through them....I'm not sure LE is that kind of person, he looks positive to me, but this will hunt the team in seasons to come and it's obvious he can't change it.

 

[raskolnikov]

We lack bench. Lucho is no pep but if he can properly rotate im sure we wouldnt be so fatigued.
I dont blame him that much to be honest, but he really needs to push for some crucial transfers in the summer so we get good depth. Its crucial.

 

[Barcilliant]

Noone knows what's going on internally.

In any job you will have tough times and stressful days but that doesn't mean you go into total meltdown.

Players are mainly to blame and Lucho partly.

We need a manager who will not be a YES man.

We need a board who also backs their manager.
Disappointed that Lucho isn't being more harsh on the team. I don't want a Mourinho tantrum but if the team is playing shit he should tell it like it is.

At the moment we are a disgrace.

This is back to the dark days.