Manchester United

Birdy

Senior Member
You are a disgrace of a poster mate. What can I expect of a so-called Barca fan that thinks the 2011 legendary Barca team would lose against Klopp's Liverpool?

Barca fan does not mean amoeba-brained fanboy.
Maybe it means that for you, but who cares?

Who is a disgrace let the others decide.
The last 3 years you have been embarrassing yourself more than any other poster in here.
And you don't have the rudimentary self-knowledge to realize that, nor the integrity to simply admit you were wrong.

You are the epitomy of forum toxicity
 

Birdy

Senior Member
At least Birdy isn't defending Ten Hag anymore, he's distracting now. I call that progress.

I am not distracting mate.
I have always said his 1st season was positive.
Last season I was very critical of him. And if he continues this season like last, I will also be critical of him.

I am not a fanboy.
I give everyone their dues
 
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vegitot

Senior Member
You realize he got everything he wanted and spent 600m so far? :lol:

You're funny I give you that, comparing Barca's situation with United. Biggest spenders vs a team that even struggles to register the one quality player they manage to sign.
Wait till he brings up: But Ten Hag couldn't get FDJ so he didn't have his team :lol:

That egg head is a bum. 600m spent and play shit football (everyone know this). Blame his own players too.
 

MontenegrinCuler

Well-known member
Probably bullshit, not crazy enough to diminish his legacy with that shithole of a club

He won UCL as a player, UCL as a coach, WC, Euros, ballon d'or and now he's supposed to listen to Man United fans cursing and shitting on him while he's supposed to do business with the likes of Antony, Maguire, Rashford and company... Yeah sure.

Unless he's offered some really huge money, but he can get huge money offers in many much less demanding clubs too (Saudi Arabia mostly)
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
They're still absolutely rubbish. And Ten Hag is still useless. But the problems are far more deep-seated than him.

This is honestly the easiest prediction ever. They constantly sign players who aren't very good for large fees. It's clear that Ugarte does not fit them. They're doing that thing on their forums of demanding time and saying anyone writing him off after two games is 'knee jerk' - but the thing is the negative posters have been proved right 99 percent of the time in the last 11 years, whereas the optimistic (less kind people would call them deluded) posters have constantly been proved wrong.

It's like they never learn.

And something else I wanted to say to @JamDav1982 - what was this nonsense you posted before the season, that i actually went along with? This idea that United had an 'easy' start to the season? How are games (in the first 6) at home to Liverpool and Tottenham and away to Brighton and Palace easy or moderate for a team as mediocre as United? It was never an easy start to the season, as is currently being proved. In fact until last night United had done the very predictible thing of (just about) beating the teams they are expected to and losing or drawing to any team that has something about them. Last night they couldn't even win a game they were favourites in, and I'd suggest that Twente might actually have won had their manager not gone defensive with 10 minutes to go. Twente were controlling the game before that.

Predicting this lot to struggle and their new players to lose the new shining sheen and soon become deadwood is the easiest thing in the game right now. Like I have said before - I believe Man City have a really strong chance of overtaking them on titles, dependent on the outcome of the court case. That would mean City win 12 more titles before United win one. Sounds a lot but given the trajectory of both teams it really isn't, especially if City keep making sensible coaching appointments and structure appointments.
 

delancey

Senior Member
It’s also a question of purchasing excellent machinery without knowing how to properly use it.

Look at how Flick has transformed our team into one which is playing attractive football with high intensity and beautiful patterns of play, constantly hounding the opposition; and he’s doing it with a decimated squad.

Considering the vast resources anvailable and the sky-high player acquisitions over recent years, Man U should be challenging for the title every year. Instead it’s playing a draw vs Twente in the Europa League and finishing 8th in the EPL. What a joke. :lol:

ETH may just be the worst manager in the EPL.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
It’s also a question of purchasing excellent machinery without knowing how to properly use it.

Look at how Flick has transformed the team into one which is playing attractive football with high intensity and beautiful patterns of play, constantly hounding the opposition ; And he’s doing it with a decimated squad.

Considering the vast resources anvailable and the sky-high player acquisitions over recent years, Man U should be challenging for the title every year. Instead it’s losing to Twente in the Europa League and finishing 8th in the EPL. What a joke. :lol:

ETH may just be the worst manager in the EPL.
The problem for them is they buy players far above their worth and value, and give them astronomical wages. Look at the knee-jerk contracts handed out to Fernandes and Rashford, who are two massive problems for them in reality.

There's also the thing I keep saying - they're a 90s club existing in the 2020s. Everything about them on and off the pitch is so archaic. They are a counter-attacking side traditionally and still veer towards that (they look down on Barca and City's 'possession' football and want it to be more direct) so they'll never be able to control and dominate games and have all the benefits that brings to a club. You can't be predominantly a counter-attack style of team in the 2020s and be successful - it's too one-dimensional. Only Real Madrid can do it, and they mainly do it against other top teams. United do it against lots of teams.

The fact they're getting excited over a one trick pony speed merchant who shoots too much like Garnacho is evidence of their problems and how they much prefer these one-dimensional counter-attack type players. It's emblematic of the issues they have as a club.
 

delancey

Senior Member
The problem for them is they buy players far above their worth and value, and give them astronomical wages. Look at the knee-jerk contracts handed out to Fernandes and Rashford, who are two massive problems for them in reality.

There's also the thing I keep saying - they're a 90s club existing in the 2020s. Everything about them on and off the pitch is so archaic. They are a counter-attacking side traditionally and still veer towards that (they look down on Barca and City's 'possession' football and want it to be more direct) so they'll never be able to control and dominate games and have all the benefits that brings to a club. You can't be predominantly a counter-attack style of team in the 2020s and be successful - it's too one-dimensional. Only Real Madrid can do it, and they mainly do it against other top teams. United do it against lots of teams.

The fact they're getting excited over a one trick pony speed merchant who shoots too much like Garnacho is evidence of their problems and how they much prefer these one-dimensional counter-attack type players. It's emblematic of the issues they have as a club.
Agreed, the club is rotten at the top too, which certainly doesn’t help the manager. The hierarchy is too focused on financial success, thus neglecting the sporting side of things.

Also the club holds on to this tradition of appointing a manager and giving him time to steer the ship in the right direction (despite clear chaos and disappointment). Success may not come immediately, but one should be able to get a decent grasp of whether something is working or not. Finishing 8th in the EPL and failing to qualify for the CL certainly isn’t it. :lol:

But Man U provides entertainment every week. Wouldn’t have it any other way. Haha
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Agreed, the club is rotten at the top too, which certainly doesn’t help the manager. The hierarchy is too focused on financial success, thus neglecting the sporting side of things.

Also the club holds on to this tradition of appointing a manager and giving him time to steer the ship in the right direction (despite clear chaos and disappointment). Success may not come immediately, but one should be able to get a decent grasp of whether something is working or not. Finishing 8th in the EPL and failing to qualify for the CL certainly isn’t it. :lol:

But Man U provides entertainment every week. Wouldn’t have it any other way. Haha
Yeah they definitely have manager messiah complex due to the Busby and more recently Ferguson reigns. No top club should be operating with the manager as the main man controlling everything. To be fair they have tried to change this with Ratcliffe, Brailsford, Berrada, Wilcox, Ashworth, Blanc et al, but it all seems a bit half-hearted and like they're hoping it will be a success while not really believing in it. Their new structural team doesn't really fill me with confidence for them relative to the teams of other big clubs.

Like you say, they're funny to watch. They're my most hated club so I have had a lot of joy, fun and pleasure (use whatever synonym you like lol) from watching them in recent years.

I also hope you are doing well mate.
 

delancey

Senior Member
Yeah they definitely have manager messiah complex due to the Busby and more recently Ferguson reigns. No top club should be operating with the manager as the main man controlling everything. To be fair they have tried to change this with Ratcliffe, Brailsford, Berrada, Wilcox, Ashworth, Blanc et al, but it all seems a bit half-hearted and like they're hoping it will be a success while not really believing in it. Their new structural team doesn't really fill me with confidence for them relative to the teams of other big clubs.

Like you say, they're funny to watch. They're my most hated club so I have had a lot of joy, fun and pleasure (use whatever synonym you like lol) from watching them in recent years.

I also hope you are doing well mate.
100 % agree.

You too mate. Haven’t seen your posts on here for a while. Missed ya. 👍
 

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