Marc Bartra

[Cule4life]

Let's just wait and see how he does against Mallorca. PSG is on anothet level of course, but it could give us some indication. My biggest worry about playing him is how horribly he gets along with Piqué in defense.

Thats Pique's fault cause he cant lead a defense. Bartra is inexperienced he needs a leader which Pique is not even after so many areas at the top level

 

[Flavia]

I hope he steps up now.

 

[Cule4life]

I hope he steps up now.

Hope so too. Hope it doesnt shatter his confidence if he makes a mistake.
PS: Tito really messed up with his handling of Bartra

 

[spark]

All I am saying is that there are reasons that a 22 year old player, plays rarely and of course there are reasons that a 27 year old guy plays in the second division. Messi was excellent from his first game. Varane made a name for himself by playing after a series of injuries(he is also 3 years younger). So if he is good enough to play in Barca he has a golden chance to prove it.

Varane did not play any big games last year. Mou gave him minutes wwhen they won the group with Ajax and when they nearly won the league. The result is he was comfortable and confident when it was needed this season. Why measure him by a Messi rubric as opposed to Valdes? Not every player starts brilliant and not every player thats on fire from the begging has the staying ability. We'll see if Varane continues on his current curve and how he will react to inevitable setbacks.

 

[DonAndres]

There's no point in comparing him to Varane. Varane performed even more admirably than usual when thrown in with the sharks in the Clasico. He's something different, a class of defender that the world hasn't seen in a while.

I hope Bartra steps up but Pique is almost useless these days and there's no way he can lead an entire defense. I'm just praying that a little part of Bartra clicks in his brain and he suddenly gets absolutely amazing for the return leg.

 

[Youngie]

I feel sorry for Bartra being thrown into the Lion's Den. Hope he does great.

 

[Barcaman]

What's there to be sorry about? Players relish to play, particularly against strong opponents. It's in the nature of any sportsman to be ambitious and competitive.
I can understand he barely played this season but he is not some kid either. He's 22.

 

[Besiktas]

I am sorry but he has not a potential to be a world class DC. The mistake that he had done yesterday(the position that he leaved his area and tried to head the ball and collided with Pique) is showing a lot. He does not have the positional sense that a world class DC should have. A defender should know his area, should know when to leave his area and when not to leave it. It is basic. Other mistakes can be removed by experience however the basics are learned in early ages. Simply Bartra is not at Barca level.

The mistake in PSG match is not a coincedence. He did the same type of mistake in Celta Vigo game too. He goes for the ball while Pique already going for that ball. He does not aware of positional situation. So we should play Song or Abidal or Busquets or Dani Alves (I know it is crazy but it worked for Adriano in classico) in PSG return leg. Sorry for Bartra. But it is what i see.

 

[BigBarcaBoy]

I am sorry but he has not a potential to be a world class DC. The mistake that he had done yesterday(the position that he leaved his area and tried to head the ball and collided with Pique) is showing a lot. He does not have the positional sense that a world class DC should have. A defender should know his area, should know when to leave his area and when not to leave it. It is basic. Other mistakes can be removed by experience however the basics are learned in early ages. Simply Bartra is not at Barca level.

The mistake in PSG match is not a coincedence. He did the same type of mistake in Celta Vigo game too. He goes for the ball while Pique already going for that ball. He does not aware of positional situation. So we should play Song or Abidal or Busquets or Dani Alves (I know it is crazy but it worked for Adriano in classico) in PSG return leg. Sorry for Bartra. But it is what i see.

Pique really needs to develop into a leader of the defence and help Bartra and the others, time to man up.

 

[Cule4life]

I am sorry but he has not a potential to be a world class DC. The mistake that he had done yesterday(the position that he leaved his area and tried to head the ball and collided with Pique) is showing a lot. He does not have the positional sense that a world class DC should have. A defender should know his area, should know when to leave his area and when not to leave it. It is basic. Other mistakes can be removed by experience however the basics are learned in early ages. Simply Bartra is not at Barca level.

The mistake in PSG match is not a coincedence. He did the same type of mistake in Celta Vigo game too. He goes for the ball while Pique already going for that ball. He does not aware of positional situation. So we should play Song or Abidal or Busquets or Dani Alves (I know it is crazy but it worked for Adriano in classico) in PSG return leg. Sorry for Bartra. But it is what i see.

That can be attributed to lack of understanding between the 2 CBs and Pique not being a leader. He may not be Barca material but its too harsh to write him off so soon without giving him enough chances. Look at Sanchez. How many chances he got despite being so poor and the same mistakes again and again. The only diff between him and Bartra is his price tag

 

[Irish_Cules]

Barta knows he'll probably play against PSG next week. He played a full 90 mins against Celta, got a run out in Paris and he'll probably play most of the game against Mallorca on the weekend. I also presume he will be doing a lot of work with Pique in training trying to build up an understanding. All of this should be enough to prepare him to play a good game in the 2nd leg. It's a tough situation, especially since he will be against Ibra but now is a huge opportunity for him to step up and show he has a bright future at this club.

 

[Barcilliant]

To throw Batra into this kind of situation is unfair. We should have played him in the Copa and brought him on when we were winning games comfortably. It is one thing to introduce a youngster (22 is still young for a defender PLUS he is inexperienced)into a pressure situation at a crucial juncture of the season and another to bring him in slowly (like Varane). Seriously we should spend 40 million on Varane instead of Neymar. Why are we so poor in the transfer market? It is beyond my comprehension. We should look at hiring Porto or Sevilla's scouts.

 

[Besiktas]

That can be attributed to lack of understanding between the 2 CBs and Pique not being a leader. He may not be Barca material but its too harsh to write him off so soon without giving him enough chances. Look at Sanchez. How many chances he got despite being so poor and the same mistakes again and again. The only diff between him and Bartra is his price tag

Please do not understand me wrong. Cantera players are deserving a lot of credit for their mistakes. I know that. Also, I know that Bartra has not given enough chances this year and it is not his fault. However, some players such as Dos Santos, Bartra, Fontas are overrated by us. If Tello makes a mistake I accept it more easily because I can see his potential. For example he was really bad in the last years home la liga classico however he saved us this year in many match. He deserves more playing time than Alexis nowadays. He was the man of the match with messi in Celta game and Tito benched him against PSG. This is a manager fault.

However when I look at Bartra and compare him with Tello, I do not see the same potential. He has problems in the basics of this game.

Anyway, this is not his fault. The fault is the managers of Barcelona. In the last two years we spend our money totally wrong. We bought Alba, Song, Fabregas and Alexis in the last two years. Only Alba is the perfect transfer. The other three are not bad players however were not needed and did not develop the team to another level.

If we had bought Thiago Silva and Aguero in stead of Song, Fabregas and Alexis, we would had won more. I think the transfer costs would be nearly the same. It was a fault of Pep and Tito. The choice wrong players. We did not tranfers for our needs.

The transfer of Cesc was an emotional case. Remember the Cesc saga. Pique,Xavi all of them are guilty in this transfer.

The transfer of Alexis is a wrong decision by Pep. The finishing ability of Alexis was not an unknown. Maybe he did not think that Pedro and Villa will decline like that. However this transfer has cause Messi dependency in terms of finishing. If we had bought Aguero instead we would be less Messi dependent in terms of scoring.

The transfer of Song is a wrong decision by Tito. We need a CB. WE bought a DMC/MC. Now, we are in a terrible situation. Only alternatives for partnering Pique are Abidal, Song, Bartra.

A club that has Xavi, İniesta and Messi should not be managed like this. This faults are costing trophies. We will not always have players like them in the history. We should find the correct pieces for more glories.

 

[Barcilliant]

Please do not understand me wrong. Cantera players are deserving a lot of credit for their mistakes. I know that. Also, I know that Bartra has not given enough chances this year and it is not his fault. However, some players such as Dos Santos, Bartra, Fontas are overrated by us. If Tello makes a mistake I accept it more easily because I can see his potential. For example he was really bad in the last years home la liga classico however he saved us this year in many match. He deserves more playing time than Alexis nowadays. He was the man of the match with messi in Celta game and Tito benched him against PSG. This is a manager fault.

However when I look at Bartra and compare him with Tello, I do not see the same potential. He has problems in the basics of this game.

Anyway, this is not his fault. The fault is the managers of Barcelona. In the last two years we spend our money totally wrong. We bought Alba, Song, Fabregas and Alexis in the last two years. Only Alba is the perfect transfer. The other three are not bad players however were not needed and did not develop the team to another level.

If we had bought Thiago Silva and Aguero in stead of Song, Fabregas and Alexis, we would had won more. I think the transfer costs would be nearly the same. It was a fault of Pep and Tito. The choice wrong players. We did not tranfers for our needs.

The transfer of Cesc was an emotional case. Remember the Cesc saga. Pique,Xavi all of them are guilty in this transfer.

The transfer of Alexis is a wrong decision by Pep. The finishing ability of Alexis was not an unknown. Maybe he did not think that Pedro and Villa will decline like that. However this transfer has cause Messi dependency in terms of finishing. If we had bought Aguero instead we would be less Messi dependent in terms of scoring.

The transfer of Song is a wrong decision by Tito. We need a CB. WE bought a DMC/MC. Now, we are in a terrible situation. Only alternatives for partnering Pique are Abidal, Song, Bartra.

A club that has Xavi, İniesta and Messi should not be managed like this. This faults are costing trophies. We will not always have players like them in the history. We should find the correct pieces for more glories.

I have said this time and again! We are unlikely to get players of this calibre again-we need to win CL's now or we are going to be waiting along time to win it again.

 

[abual3bed1]

IF he does somehow manage to put a solid performance against PSG next week, I think he'll get the regular spot and might save us a lot of money in the summer. Will be looking for a back-up CB then instead of spending big bucks on a class A defender. Or am I just dreaming??