Martin Braithwaite
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Birdy
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No it makes perfect sense mate.
All the leaks together point to what the Sport leak is saying.
Gnidrologist
Senior Member
Thought he is joining pirate crew.
Sooke
Member
That is true. We would never get his full salary of the books. But the bigger problem is that he is refusing to be traded or loaned to any other European club, even though such a move will guarantee him 100% of his wages. Portion from Barcelona and portion from the new team. He prefers to stay and get his heavy paychecks without any contribution to the team.
Don't fall for the propoganda.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Question is; does the club even accepts that?
I think this is huge part of the problem tbf.
Let me explain:
People have been quoting capology for salary of player, I don't believe any site has accurate data of salaries but for ease of discussion let's assume it is accurate
https://www.capology.com/club/barcelona/salaries/
So Martin Braithwaite earns 6M gross salary, seems ok right? Not that much in comparison to Barca salay.
BUT
Most of our players has their market in Spain mainly, they stayed there for years, possibly had their best success there, and usually Liga clubs make the most sense to move there. This is usually the case for most big clubs in top leagues anyway.
So let's take a look at some Liga clubs:
Celta: Denis is paid around 4.8M, but second highest is Aspas at 2.6M. No way a club like that make Martin a better paid player.
Espanyol: Raul De Tomas is highest paid at 2.7M, again no way they pay more for Braithwaite.
Getafe has Djene at 2.2M, Mallorca top earner is less than 1M, Osasuna at 1.5M, Rayo at 1.2 etc
Now slightly richer clubs like Betis has Fekir at 6.7 but 2nd best paid at 4.2
Sociedad is even worse, highest at 4.4M
Valancie only 2 players above 4M.
Only 2 clubs that pay 6M as normal salary outside of big 3 is Seville and Villarreal.
So basically, unless those 2 are interested, the truth is the regular rate for a player like Braithwaite is around 2.5M at best. If you extremely lucky you get a club willing to pay him 4M.
Thing is, even outside of Spain isn't better. Outside of CL clubs that doesn't want him, only EPL clubs can pay that rate and even then most lower half of the table clubs will be making him top 5 or 6 earner to get him. And probably no one there wants him.
So basically, our previous board paid him like a top player in a team that is top 6 in Spain, when he was a top player in relegated team. The gap is almost 3 times the salary.
Can't blame the board for asking him to leave, can't blame him for wanting his money, can't blame other clubs for not wanting to pay him.
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Birdy
Senior Member
Would love you to explain then why it's propaganda and what's the truth here
serghei
Senior Member
How much did a club like Leganes pay him, and why would you probably double or triple that?
The problem is the club sabotaged itself by having an incompetent board. Every other party besides Bartomeu the rat and his cohort of incompetents is collateral damage and caught in the crossfire because after a fuck-up of that level, a massive clean-up is bound to happen, and that's a messy affair. This problem never appears under normal circumstances, because no sane top club would give a Leganes player 6m gross, when the guy would be desperate to sign for 3.
6m salary for a deadwood is not ok. That's serious money.
The problem is the club sabotaged itself by having an incompetent board. Every other party besides Bartomeu the rat and his cohort of incompetents is collateral damage and caught in the crossfire because after a fuck-up of that level, a massive clean-up is bound to happen, and that's a messy affair. This problem never appears under normal circumstances, because no sane top club would give a Leganes player 6m gross, when the guy would be desperate to sign for 3.
6m salary for a deadwood is not ok. That's serious money.
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Birdy
Senior Member
Question is; does the club even accepts that?
I think this is huge part of the problem tbf.
Let me explain:
People have been quoting capology for salary of player, I don't believe any site has accurate data of salaries but for ease of discussion let's assume it is accurate
https://www.capology.com/club/barcelona/salaries/
So Martin Braithwaite earns 6M gross salary, seems ok right? Not that much in comparison to Barca salay.
BUT
Most of our players has their market in Spain mainly, they stayed there for years, possibly had their best success there, and usually Liga clubs make the most sense to move there. This is usually the case for most big clubs in top leagues anyway.
So let's take a look at some Liga clubs:
Celta: Denis is paid around 4.8M, but second highest is Aspas at 2.6M. No way a club like that make Martin a better paid player.
Espanyol: Raul De Tomas is highest paid at 2.7M, again no way they pay more for Braithwaite.
Getafe has Djene at 2.2M, Mallorca top earner is less than 1M, Osasuna at 1.5M, Rayo at 1.2 etc
Now slightly richer clubs like Betis has Fekir at 6.7 but 2nd best paid at 4.2
Sociedad is even worse, highest at 4.4M
Valancie only 2 players above 4M.
Only 2 clubs that pay 6M as normal salary outside of big 3 is Seville and Villarreal.
So basically, unless those 2 are interested, the truth is the regular rate for a player like Braithwaite is around 2.5M at best. If you extremely lucky you get a club willing to pay him 4M.
Thing is, even outside of Spain isn't better. Outside of CL clubs that doesn't want him, only EPL clubs can pay that rate and even then most lower half of the table clubs will be making him top 5 or 6 earner to get him. And probably no one there wants him.
So basically, our previous board paid him like a top player in a team that is top 6 in Spain, when he was a top player in relegated team. The gap is almost 3 times the salary.
Can't blame the board for asking him to leave, can't blame him for wanting his money, can't blame other clubs for not wanting to pay him.
All this is correct
The question ,though, is NOT that the spanish clubs can't pay him the Barca wage.
The issue is that he doesn't want to move at all
Case 1: He wants money (despite being billionare)
Why then he doesn't accept the move to Saudi Arabia where his salary will be tripled?
Case 2: He wants a competitive team in Europe to assure him chances for World Cup
Why then he doesn't accept a move to a LL side with Barca paying portion of his salary and the LL side another portion?
Why he didn't want to go to Ajax, when Schreuder wants him there??
Both case 1 and 2 are not the case with this dude.
Because there is something else going on, and I seriously think it's what I and Serghei wrote above.
The notion that they would triple his wages, yet Braithwaite would also demand we rescind his contract so he receives payout of the remainder of his Barca contract. The move to a supposed unnamed Saudi team would be a free transfer- hence no need to payout anything of his Barca contract.
So it may be true that:-
1) Braithwaite has a higher wage offer from Saudi
2) Braithwaite rejects a move as he doesn't want to live there
3) Braithwaite demands payout to have his contract rescinded.
But it wouldn't be true that 1) and 3) are combined. But Sport publishing as so is the classic move of the Barcelona media to turn the fans against players that the club wants to transfer out.
EDIT: Khaled has corrected me that the tax rate for foreigners in Saudi is 20% not 0%. Still the basis remains.
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Respekt_III
Anti-everything
Sports track record in reporting should be enough to know they're not trust worthy and push agendas.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Braithwaite salary = 6M
Saudi league highest paid salary was Giuliano de Paula: 7M
Even with less tax (45% in Spain, 20% in KSA for foreign players) I don't get how he can get 3 times the salary there?
serghei
Senior Member
They probably count it as 3m net his Barca salary (those 6 include Spanish taxes). He'd get about 8-9m salary in Saudi League. Not THAT unbelievable, considering Braithwaite would be the best player in the league most likely.
Who the hell is Giuliano de Paula btw?
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Birdy
Senior Member
Yes, that was true under Barto, when he was paying to control the media
Laporta and his administration doesn't have an edge there. either Sport or MD
Birdy
Senior Member
You are assuming no Saudi team will offer more than what they pay to this de Paula dude.
Why you think so?
If Braithwate is the closest they can get to a European international with minimal recognizability, they might offer him more money
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