When has Lucho ever said he doesnt count on him?
I know through his actions he doesnt seem to rate him but cant remember Lucho ever saying he is free to go or isnt needed.
Might have missed it but though he has said the opposite and he could still have a role to play of works hard.
Yeah, Lucho has never gone full Bielsa (w/ Doria) on Montoya.
Playing douglas against huesca was a sign he counts on Montoya, right?
Lucho about him, this past week: “Montoya está trabajando para cambiar una fase desagradable. No es una fase infinita y yo le animo a seguir trabajando y a esperar su oportunidad, si aparece. Si no es así, estará preparado para afrontar cualquier cosa en el futuro”. Lucho always said things like that, when asked about him. It doesn't take a genius to see he is not counting on Montoya at all. Alves was suspended last night, Martin wasn't even on the squad.
And here's Montoya's agent today: http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/luis-enrique-quiere-montoya-por-temas-futbolisticos-3764951
Am I not trying to say he counts on him or rates him, clearly I said the opposite.
But cant remember him ever coming out and saying he doesnt count on him. That hasnt happened.
He didn't need to. Actions speak louder than words, anyway.
Montoya's agent said that Monty had some talks with Lucho where Monty got told that Alves, Douglas and even Adriano is ahead of him in the pecking order.
When did he say that?
You have a link?
I don't agree with you. The coach has said time and again he is not counting on Montoya, and played douglas ahead of him twice already. The club has little leverage to use. Martin wants to go badly, and in definitive. His agent has used the press to put pressure, and as Lucho won't change his mind, there's only left to know where will he go, and for how much. Maybe a buy-back option, but I doubt he'll accept to leave on loan.
Well I think differently. If you think the club has little leverage to use, then Montoya has none. Montoya might want to leave and his agent might be pressuring, but at the end of the day, it is the club that holds the decision. They can just as easily say they count on Montoya for depth and hold him until the summer, and there is nothing Montoya or his agent can do about it short of starting to badmouth the club to the press, which might just as well hurt Montoya too. If they find him no agreeable sale deal but a loan deal instead, you think Montoya would rather ride the pine the rest of the season instead of leaving on loan? I think not.
Though for what it's worth, I don't think it'll come to any of this. I think the club wants to end this amicably and will find something agreeable to the player.
Well I think differently. If you think the club has little leverage to use, then Montoya has none. Montoya might want to leave and his agent might be pressuring, but at the end of the day, it is the club that holds the decision. They can just as easily say they count on Montoya for depth and hold him until the summer, and there is nothing Montoya or his agent can do about it short of starting to badmouth the club to the press, which might just as well hurt Montoya too. If they find him no agreeable sale deal but a loan deal instead, you think Montoya would rather ride the pine the rest of the season instead of leaving on loan? I think not.
the thing is, unless its actually true that Montoya doesn't train properly at all, its barça's reputation that is going to suffer, not Montoya.
And if on top of that the club would close the door this winter (they won't) that would be very damaging indeed