Martin Odegaard

[Bertus]

There are other factors than money of course. Neymar said no to real Even though they offered more. He liked Barca better and thought our kind of football suited him well.

Same with ødegaard, he is going to earn a whole lot of cash anyway, so he should prioritize values and the total package. Whats best for him.

Think of it bertus. You are talented you say. Lets say your talent is to collect bottles in pubs or something - you do it fast. Then you Will most likely prioritize the money - Its not going to be much anyway. I dont know if you collect bottles, but people earns a lot anyway often look for other things.

If he is smart he reviewed everything that was offered to him.

As far as we know, RM offered a lot, not just "money". Look at how he was offered to train with the first team. Just that can be thrilling. If he was offered to train with Eusebio here, and with Carlo there, just that can be discussed as one of the reasons he chose RM.

People focus on money as if RM had just that to offer .

 

[Luftstalag14]

Then what's the problem?

Honest question. You say I misunderstood you. No problem about it. I just want to understand what we are discussing and what problems you see in that deal.

There is NO problem with Real Madrid signing him. Period.

All I am saying is, we probably have financial limits that Real Madrid don't have, which means we are not free to offer a youth player that kind of salary and expect everything to be OK. Real Madrid, being stacked with money, have a lot more room to maneuver than we (and many other clubs) do financially, therefore they were able to put forward the most lucrative package for him (and other players) and be completely OK.

End of story.

 

[Bertus]

There is NO problem with Real Madrid signing him. Period.

All I am saying is, we probably have financial limits that Real Madrid don't have, which means we are not free to offer a youth player that kind of salary and expect everything to be OK. Real Madrid, being stacked with money, have a lot more room to maneuver than we (and many other clubs) do financially, therefore they were able to put forward the most lucrative package for him (and other players) and be completely OK.

End of story.

I fully believe Barca or Bayern can offer as much if they want to Odegaard. They just chose not to.

 

[KingMessi]

And to get back on topic, anybody know what number he'll have for Real? Or is he being registered with the B team first?

 

[DonAK]

And to get back on topic, anybody know what number he'll have for Real? Or is he being registered with the B team first?

B team.

 

[KingMessi]

I fully believe Barca or Bayern can offer as much if they want. They just chose not to.

Why should we? Our 1998 generation, while not as high profile media wise, is stacked with talent: Lee, Ayoub, Alena, Perez, etc. Maybe the board didn't think he was worth more than what they offered. Or maybe Odegaard didn't like the impression he got of the club. It's time to move on.

 

[Bertus]

Why should we? Our 1998 generation, while not as high profile media wise, is stacked with talent: Lee, Ayoub, Alena, Perez, etc.

Never said barca should.

I'm replying to Luft who's saying Barca financially can't.

 

[evilhita666]

Nope. Players between the age of 16 and 18 in the EU region can move within the zone if certain conditions(acceptable standard of education and living conditions) are met. Martin is 16 and while Norway is the not in the EU, we're in the EEA(European Economic Area) so this implies to us as well.

And a club of Real Madrid's stature would surely not fail in providing those things. Besides his dad is also getting a job there.

i think it's only non eu under 18s that you can't poach.

Thanks for the clarification, guys!

 

[KingMessi]

I'm replying to Luft who's saying Barca financially can't.

Wait what? Of course we could afford to pay him.

 

[DonAK]

We could afford paying him that LOL and so could Bayern too, but none of us would pay that much for a 16 year old I guess.

With Neymar he was showing the goods already at that age and he was already one of the most marketable footballer's on the planet so financially he was a much more secure transfer even if he cost a lot more.

Actually even this Ødegaard deal is not a big deal for RM. What is 2m euros annually for them? Nothing. If Martin makes it then it's awesome for them, if he doesn't then they'll move on to other things anyway without having lost much.

 

[Heisenberg is cooking]

Bertus

You are on to something. The thing we all expected was that he would evaluate the whole package and make a decision.

So why choose real? Talents often fail there. The highest level is "absolute world class", not "very good players". In other words, he must improve immensily and Will most likely Get only a few minutes with the best.

Why not ajax instead? First team spot is likely. Decent league and CL. They also know how to handle talents.

I think he Will end up in an ok la liga team after spending some time in Madrid - as thousends before him.

 

[BBZ8800]

There are other factors than money of course. Neymar said no to real Even though they offered more. He liked Barca better and thought our kind of football suited him well.

Same with ødegaard, he is going to earn a whole lot of cash anyway, so he should prioritize values and the total package. Whats best for him.

Think of it bertus. You are talented you say. Lets say your talent is to collect bottles in pubs or something - you do it fast. Then you Will most likely prioritize the money - Its not going to be much anyway. I dont know if you collect bottles, but people who earns a lot anyway often look for other things.

When Halilovic signed for us, I guess that people assumed that he prioritized "real values", isn't it?
I mean, he had a lot of offers, and picked a club based on 2 things:
1. one of top3 most famous clubs in the world
2. we probably offered him a nice wages

Odegaard picked Real:
1. they are also one of top3 clubs in the world, plus currently the best team in Europe
-- no one can blame a kid for picking the best team currently
2. they paid a lot

Further, some people are saying that choosing Real is bad, because they will ruin his career.
But why is Halilovic's pick a better one?

He had 18 when he signed:
-- he knew that he will have to play in our B-team, and someone could say: But Barca's B team is horrible currently. He will stagnate there because his teammates are average, and the coach Eusebio is horrible. If he goes there, his career is ruined.
-- further, Halil signed a deal that he MUST be promoted to Ateam in the 2nd Season

-- so, he hasn't played too much of senior football in Dinamo at all
-- he doesn't play too much for senior NT team
-- Barca's B team is poor
-- if he stays there, he won't develop too much
-- if he will be promoted to Ateam after 1 Season in Bteam, he will be ruined again

So, when people say that Odegaard should have chosen Ajax or some other club to develop better, the same could be said about Halilovic.
He won't get too many minutes in Ateam too soon. And playing under Eusebio in Bteam won't help to any young gem, isn't it?

So, again, too many opinions here are extremely biased.
When someone picks Real (Odegaard), it is because of money.
And when someone picks Barca (Neymar, Halilovic), it is because of love towards our club (and not money, lol), and because playing here offers a better future than playing in Real.

A huge bias by our fans.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Never said barca should.

I'm replying to Luft who's saying Barca financially can't.

Of course we have the money, but I was talking about the ripple effect on existing players and to a lesser extent, future new signings if we had offered him that kind of money. I expect to up the salaries of existing players to not cause any problems in the dressing room.

 

[Butaan4barca]

damn, real madrid just bought barca legend. I have a feeling, he is going to get annoyed due to lack of first team opportunities. And then barca will snatch him. #fantasyworld.

he is insane to consider. a place in a midfield of modric, bale, kroos, isco, pogba ( i bet they will buy him), or my be sterling and ramsey in couple of years aswell.

He surely can't expect in 3-4 years atleast. and by then madrid will have a dozen new midfielders, bought and sold.

too unpredictable and risky decision

 

[linetty]

We could afford paying him that LOL and so could Bayern too, but none of us would pay that much for a 16 year old I guess.

or maybe we're transfer banned?