Memphis Depay

[JamDav1982]

huge paycut? nobody was in for him as otherwise there would have been a bidding war.

he gets 5M a season net. more than stegen, pedri or kounde.

i'm all for paying him what he is owed. but if we release him on a free so he can get a fat bonus and big salary elsewhere then it makes no sense for him to request that season to be paid.

Same old line of 'nobody being in for him'.

Clueless.

Juventus themselves were in for him a year ago.

 

[JamDav1982]

Bobo you lost me on what you trying to explain.

But getting depay was a smart move last summer, I'd do it again if given the opportunity.

He's now just trying to use the leverage he has to get more money out of the club, it certainly isn't typical to pay a player the remaining salary on his contract if he agrees to be sold, which going by reports he has.

If he wants to leave for a free, so he can get the sign on bonus that's different & fair play to him if he wants that, in a perfect world we would get at least 15m for him to help the net spend.

But him wanting to leave on a free plus get the last year of his contract is a dick move that can only be explained by the club shitting on de jong.

But fuck de jong, he ain't done shit for us since being here.

FDJ done plenty and been best mid since at club despite not being in best position.

Trying hard to make out he has done fuck all to back clubs treatment of him.

It wont strictly be about FDJ anyway.. he was promised all sorts of shit from club that love to promise the world to anyone that will listen most likely.

 

[jamrock]

FDJ done plenty and been best mid since at club despite not being in best position.

Trying hard to make out he has done fuck all to back clubs treatment of him.

It wont strictly be about FDJ anyway.. he was promised all sorts of shit from club that love to promise the world to anyone that will listen most likely.

When he makes himself the undisputed number 1 name on the team sheet in midfield, I'll be right there with you on that.

As of now & since he's been here, that's definitely not the case, he's 25 should be crushing everyone in our midfield instead all I hear is he was world class in 1,2 or 3 games, out of the 100 he's probably played for us

Fuck all that he needs to bench old man river walk & keep gavi in is space, I'm not making any execuses for a 25 year old who should be WC at this stage of his career.

 

[JamDav1982]

When he makes himself the undisputed number 1 name on the team sheet in midfield, I'll be right there with you on that.

As of now & since he's been here, that's definitely not the case, he's 25 should be crushing everyone in our midfield instead all I hear is he was world class in 1,2 or 3 games, out of the 100 he's probably played for us

Fuck all that he needs to bench old man river walk & keep gavi in is space, I'm not making any execuses for a 25 year old who should be WC at this stage of his career.

He has been the best mid.. if want him to get back to top levels then need to provide a system for that and not one built on a player like Busquets.

Much better than Gavi last season. Look at the best goals under Xavi and how much he was involved.

Voted player of year a year or so ago..and had a great season in a number of positions.

Look at the Frankfurt tie etc and difference he makes.

Claiming he has done nothing is clueless. Been the best mid even not in system that fully suits him.

Xavi being obsessed with Busquets as best DM in world and setting out system for him is on Xavi not FDJ as there is no player in world Xavi would give up Busquets for and a huge list of midfielders that are better than him.

Best outfield player when came on in last game again.

 

[jamrock]

He has been the best mid.. if want him to get back to top levels then need to provide a system for that and not one built on a player like Busquets.

Much better than Gavi last season. Look at the best goals under Xavi and how much he was involved.

Voted player of year a year or so ago..and had a great season in a number of positions.

Look at the Frankfurt tie etc and difference he makes.

Claiming he has done nothing is clueless. Been the best mid even not in system that fully suits him.

Xavi being obsessed with Busquets as best DM in world and setting out system for him is on Xavi not FDJ as there is no player in world Xavi would give up Busquets for and a huge list of midfielders that are better than him.

Best outfield player when came on in last game again.

Again, if you are so clearly better than someone at something, you make it impossible for you not to be the first choice, it will shine through.

Frankie de jong at 25 years old, is not discussed as being one of the best midfielders in the world, because he's not, he is still talked about as having WC potential.

If he can't make it so not even a "bias" coached, which there has been 4 since he's been at Barcelona, see that he should bench busquets.

That's on Frankie, a excellent game here & there doesn't change that.

I'm tired of hearing execuses as to why a 25 year who we paid good money for, isn't starting in is best position & why we don't play to his strengths.

If we went to any other top team in Europe they.

1) Wouldn't play him as DM
2) wouldn't build their Midfield around him.

That's on him as much as if not more than xavi, the blame can't be 100% xavi, this pre season xavi has shown he's willing to bench pique and I'm sure if we got a better LB he'd bench alba as well, same goes for busquets.

Frankie should man up & make the job off him, don't expect it to be given, this painting de jong as victim as it relates to on the field matters is crap.

 

[JamDav1982]

Again... he has been first choice for majority of time and Xavi not starting him at times as they want to sell him in part as one of few can sell and get money for.

Easily better than Gavi last season it is not even close and been best mid in time at club.

Folk claiming he has done nothing is clueless and then answer back with 'well he hasnt been world class'.

Or after 1/2 friendlies claiming Kessie showed more than FDJ ever has is utter nonsense.

Xavi prefers a midfield built on Busi and sees him as best lone DM in world. That is on Xavi and how he wants to play.

No one is making anyone a 'victim'. More nonsense.

Every single top European team would have Frenkie ahead of Busquets.. bar Barca.

As usual make a claim as if FDJ has 'done nothing' then deflect argument in as many different directions as possible when called on it.

You again make this lame argument of 'four Barca coaches'. Have told you that is a poor argument in past. As it doesnt even make sense and midfield was better with FDJ in CM and Busi at DM than other options and Busi is older and worse than ever now anyway.

You are acting like he has been shit and folk are saying 'he hasnt played in best position'... when no that is not the point.., he has done well just never been in a system that plays to his strengths if want to get best out of him.

By that 'four coaches' argument then all four have played him in CM so he must be doing that job and not as bad as likes of you make out? Or that argument only for Busquets?

Saying he has 'done nothing' is nonsense. He has been best mid in three years at club.

 

[jamrock]

Again... he has been first choice for majority of time and Xavi not starting him at times as they want to sell him in part as one of few can sell and get money for.

Easily better than Gavi last season it is not even close and been best mid in time at club.

Folk claiming he has done nothing is clueless and then answer back with 'well he hasnt been world class'.

Or after 1/2 friendlies claiming Kessie showed more than FDJ ever has is utter nonsense.

Xavi prefers a midfield built on Busi and sees him as best lone DM in world. That is on Xavi and how he wants to play.

No one is making anyone a 'victim'. More nonsense.

Every single top European team would have Frenkie ahead of Busquets.. bar Barca.

As usual make a claim as if FDJ has 'done nothing' then deflect argument in as many different directions as possible when called on it.

Yea all that talk, & he still can't bench old man river walk & has to rotate minutes with a 18 year old.

Ofc every club would take Frankie over busquets, that's a very hot take, great insight.

But none Bar man utd, NONE,zero,zlitch, nada would take him over what they have now, which shows he ain't seen as elite, the way all his supports seem to believe.

He needs to put up or shut up, period.

No execuses.

 

[JamDav1982]

Yea all that talk, & he still can't bench old man river walk & has to rotate minutes with a 18 year old.

Ofc every club would take Frankie over busquets, that's a very hot take, great insight.

But none Bar man utd, NONE,zero,zlitch, nada would take him over what they have now, which shows he ain't seen as elite, the way all his supports seem to believe.

He needs to put up or shut up, period.

No execuses.

Xavi prefers Busquets as a sole DM. That is Xavs choice.

Doesnt mean Xavi is correct about best way to set up midfield from players available.

Xavi also paid 60m for Torres.. you cant pick and choose when to use coaches choice as defintive factor.

You have no idea what clubs have come in for FDJ either... if he signs for Chelsea say does that make you wrong? I know answer to that.

Frenkie has done well in time at club and been much better than likes of Busquets even not in best position.

Every top club would build midfield on FDJ with these options. Busquets would get nowhere near a top side.

 

[jamrock]

Xavi prefers Busquets as a sole DM. That is Xavs choice.

Doesnt mean Xavi is correct about best way to set up midfield from players available.

Xavi also paid 60m for Torres.. you cant pick and choose when to use coaches choice as defintive factor.

You have no idea what clubs have come in for FDJ either... if he signs for Chelsea say does that make you wrong? I know answer to that.

Frenkie has done well in time at club and been much better than likes of Busquets even not in best position.

Every top club would build midfield on FDJ with these options. Busquets would get nowhere near a top side.

If he goes to Chelsea it would not make me wrong because they are desperate for signings now, they pain almost $80m for freaking cucurella l.

Busquets would get no where near a top side, we agree on that, but neither would Frankie, who is in for him? No one bar man utd.

Let the club put up Pedri, gavi or even fati with his injury record, I guarantee clubs would be in for them even if they had players in those positions already.


Clubs around Europe with their silence have shown how they view him, all those Ajax players have all been huge disappointments since leaving.

They should all go to Germany, I'm sure they would do well their.

I like the young man. He has WC potential, I'm just tired of hearing about potential at 25, needs to show it.

 

[JamDav1982]

If he goes to Chelsea it would not make me wrong because they are desperate for signings now, they pain almost $80m for freaking cucurella l.

Busquets would get no where near a top side, we agree on that, but neither would Frankie, who is in for him? No one bar man utd.

Let the club put up Pedri, gavi or even fati with his injury record, I guarantee clubs would be in for them even if they had players in those positions already.


Clubs around Europe with their silence have shown how they view him, all those Ajax players have all been huge disappointments since leaving.

They should all go to Germany, I'm sure they would do well their.

I like the young man. He has WC potential, I'm just tired of hearing about potential at 25, needs to show it.

Chelsea are not desperate for anything and of course it wont make you wrong and there is some other reason.. hence why I already knew the answer.

Clubs all silent but if they come in then there is a 'reason'.

Is Kalvin Phillips better than FDJ because City signed him? Not for me and I doubt Pep believes that either.

He has done well at Barca and not been nearly as bad as made out.

If want to try and get very best out of him then build midfield in DM area for him ahead of Busquets as any top coach would.

FDJ has not been 'hugely dissapointing' he has been Barcas best mid in time when club has been in turmoil really and never played in best position.

Likes of MDL has not been hugely disappointing either. He is one of best CBs in world and Juve fans loved him.

 

[Barcaman]

Noone wants to pay for players they know we want to boot. Bidding their time to see if we become even more desperate and offer to pay their wages too like we have before.

Painful to watch how it slowly unfolds.

 

[Zidane82]

I thought they were asking 20 million.. yet they are saying 3 million !!

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Yeah three million is a joke. I can't believe this is not done deal yet.

 

[Co0ter]

Again, if you are so clearly better than someone at something, you make it impossible for you not to be the first choice, it will shine through.

Frankie de jong at 25 years old, is not discussed as being one of the best midfielders in the world, because he's not, he is still talked about as having WC potential.

If he can't make it so not even a "bias" coached, which there has been 4 since he's been at Barcelona, see that he should bench busquets.

That's on Frankie, a excellent game here & there doesn't change that.

I'm tired of hearing execuses as to why a 25 year who we paid good money for, isn't starting in is best position & why we don't play to his strengths.

If we went to any other top team in Europe they.

1) Wouldn't play him as DM
2) wouldn't build their Midfield around him.

That's on him as much as if not more than xavi, the blame can't be 100% xavi, this pre season xavi has shown he's willing to bench pique and I'm sure if we got a better LB he'd bench alba as well, same goes for busquets.

Frankie should man up & make the job off him, don't expect it to be given, this painting de jong as victim as it relates to on the field matters is crap.

The point he is making is that it is kind of hard for De Jong to be considered a top CM when he is playing in a flawed system that is built around Busquets (I laughed out loud typing that because it's so fucking ridiculous). Not to mention last season he was not only babysitting Busquets, but putting in an extra shift covering for Messi because all he did was walk around all game.

The point is, DESPITE playing in a shit system that is neither built around him or give him a role he thrives in, he was STILL our most influential and solid CM.

Busquets is trash, but the fault lies with Xavi when he has a handful of great, young players and he doesnt use a system to get the most out of any of them.

 

[jamrock]

The point he is making is that it is kind of hard for De Jong to be considered a top CM when he is playing in a flawed system that is built around Busquets (I laughed out loud typing that because it's so fucking ridiculous). Not to mention last season he was not only babysitting Busquets, but putting in an extra shift covering for Messi because all he did was walk around all game.

The point is, DESPITE playing in a shit system that is neither built around him or give him a role he thrives in, he was STILL our most influential and solid CM.

Busquets is trash, but the fault lies with Xavi when he has a handful of great, young players and he doesnt use a system to get the most out of any of them.

And my point is, If he was as special as so many seems to believe, the coach would have built the midfield around him and accomodate him in anyway possible, many coached have come & gone at Barcelona done have so and all we keep hearing are execuses as to why, WC players don't need execuses they perform point blank period.

But all his fans, seems to believe a coach will see a player than is significantly better than anyone else in the team and deliberately limit Is growth because he has personal affection for another player and no one makes it to the top of anything in life, like xavi has with that kind of mentality.


If Frankie wants the midfield built around him, make it so abundantly obvious that fans even at the stadium would be shocked if he doesn't play.

But too many are simply saying busquets is old and that's all it should take.

At 25 he should be the first name on the team midfield & the 2nd on the team sheet overall after lewa, and he ain't that, a good 5/6 players are ahead of him, if not more.

People will say oh it's xavi, it's koeman, it's setien, it's valverde, it's busquets, it's Messi.

That's a fuck ton of exercuses for a WC player, if he wants its, go get it, Period.

He has the talent for it, turn that talent into performances.