Nelson Semedo

DAMNit

Member
Rofl, again with the rose tinted glasses on the great ZZ. Only a tactical mastermind like him could be 18 points adrift in LL while fully integrating and honing the skills of guys like Ceballos, Vallejo and Theo. Truly something to envy. :worthy:

Well, unlike almighty Valverde who is scared to give his young players a run of league games Vallejo and Hakimi actually played in the UCL
 

behindbrowneyes

Well-known member
Maybe when he coaches a team talent filled as Barcelona.
Remind me again what was Valverde's reputation prior to coaching Barcelona?... Let me summarize, " He played for Fc Barcelona for 2 years, scoring 8 goals". That is all there is to write home about. His duration at Bilbao, Valencia,Villareal,Olympiacos were all failures...

:lol:

He is kind of a legend at Olympiacos (ask their fans) and look where Bilbao was before him and Bilbao is after him. He reached European qualifiers every single season.

Talking about reputations. Barcelona is not known as the club of coaches with great CV. Pep and Lucho were greater footballers for the club, but they had nowhere near the reputation as a coach Valverde had when he joined Barcelona.
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
Maybe when he coaches a team talent filled as Barcelona.
Remind me again what was Valverde's reputation prior to coaching Barcelona?... Let me summarize, " He played for Fc Barcelona for 2 years, scoring 8 goals". That is all there is to write home about. His duration at Bilbao, Valencia,Villareal,Olympiacos were all failures...

Um....no.
 

LeeRomeno

Active member
You forgot to mention Asensio.

No, because he was developed in Mallorca and Espanyol. Also I fail to recall when someone from LA Masia has introduced himself to team like he did in Supercopa vs Sevilla. Asensio has also not been regular, but at least he has some spectacular performances already for Real.
 

LeeRomeno

Active member
His start was decent for someone who wants a defending type of LB, he was never good in attack or buildup, literally never, but did the job in defence.
I'm not talking about 1 game, it just shows a player gets better with time and Digne is a good example.
Semedo twice as much this season lol, again, DIGNE HAS BEEN HERE LONGER THAN 1 SEASON, do you really think extra 600 minutes on pitch is the same as staying with team, training with them every day for a year?

Can you please answer my question, I have no clue what exactly are you even trying to prove here. Digne is not a miracle going forward suddenly, he had 1 semidecent game. Can Semedo be better next season? Who da fck knows, I certainly hope he does, but he may as wlel end up like Digne who played less this season than last.
 

Danic

New member
He is already the way better defender. I said it month ago and i say it again, first row rb in the near future.
What most of u forget. While he gets his playtime it wasnt in a row most of the time. Even more important constantly switching wingers in front of him.
In the few games with dembele we already get a glimpse of what a great duo this can be.
Some people here are too much short term thinkers
 

Joan

Well-known member
He is already the way better defender. I said it month ago and i say it again, first row rb in the near future.
What most of u forget. While he gets his playtime it wasnt in a row most of the time. Even more important constantly switching wingers in front of him.
In the few games with dembele we already get a glimpse of what a great duo this can be.
He's a solid defender, better than Roberto - I agree. First row? Hope so but hard to tell.

It would be a valid argument BUT, you don't develop chemistry solely on the pitch. He's been here whole season and still hasn't managed to produce anything worth noting in attack.

Can he still become top notch RB? I don't know, might happen.
 

Danic

New member
What is a thing worth noting in attack as a rb? He is definatly a bit conservative from time to time in going forward. But thats something i think will be better when confidence is growing.
He is fast and he is technically strong but something still holds him back. If u watch him closley u can see it in several actions per game where he could/should go 1v1 esspecially with his speed. But then he stops in the last moment and thats a pure confidence thing for me.
 

Joan

Well-known member
What is a thing worth noting in attack as a rb? He is definatly a bit conservative from time to time in going forward. But thats something i think will be better when confidence is growing.
He is fast and he is technically strong but something still holds him back. If u watch him closley u can see it in several actions per game where he could/should go 1v1 esspecially with his speed. But then he stops in the last moment and thats a pure confidence thing for me.

Goals, assists, chances created, runs, crosses... pretty much anything memorable.

Might be, but then he has problems with confidence. No top-notch player is mentally fragile.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
He's a solid defender, better than Roberto - I agree. First row? Hope so but hard to tell.

It would be a valid argument BUT, you don't develop chemistry solely on the pitch. He's been here whole season and still hasn't managed to produce anything worth noting in attack.

Can he still become top notch RB? I don't know, might happen.
While it's true he needs to improve going forward in some aspects it's not like his main competitor is some wizard going forward either.

The only thing Roberto really had on Semedo was his attacking contribution but since January that pretty much all but vanished. That assist was great for Suarez in the Classico but that was IMO the only notable thing he has done attacking wise in months.

I mean I might get shit for what I said above but Roberto lost pretty much most of the advantage he had on Semedo. and with Roberto being awful at defending and not having good enough pace, it's kinda pointless to play him there if he's not delivering on an attacking part.
 

Danic

New member
Goals, assists, chances created, runs, crosses... pretty much anything memorable.

Might be, but then he has problems with confidence. No top-notch player is mentally fragile.
No one said he is top notch right now. Im not surprised he has confidence problems.
First season in a big club in a top league. Starting strong and suddenly benched for no reason. Same goes for most of the season.
As i said before always different wingers in front of him. Then its hard to improve runs. When hes playing more often with demble and shows no improving u got me.
But i doubt that will happen...
 

GOAT_SUAREZ

New member
Maybe when he coaches a team talent filled as Barcelona.
Remind me again what was Valverde's reputation prior to coaching Barcelona?... Let me summarize, " He played for Fc Barcelona for 2 years, scoring 8 goals". That is all there is to write home about. His duration at Bilbao, Valencia,Villareal,Olympiacos were all failures...

failures? Please log off.
 

Joan

Well-known member
While it's true he needs to improve going forward in some aspects it's not like his main competitor is some wizard going forward either.

The only thing Roberto really had on Semedo was his attacking contribution but since January that pretty much all but vanished. That assist was great for Suarez in the Classico but that was IMO the only notable thing he has done attacking wise in months.

I mean I might get shit for what I said above but Roberto lost pretty much most of the advantage he had on Semedo. and with Roberto being awful at defending and not having good enough pace, it's kinda pointless to play him there if he's not delivering on an attacking part.

No, no, why would you get shit? You are completely right. Sadly, I have to agree. Roberto is not a RB and even if he adapted well to the position, he doesn't have 'it' in him, unlike Kimmich, for instance.

I said it a few days ago, player like Alves is what the team misses a lot. I was talking of Semedo as a player in Barca, not in comparison with anyone else. You can see he's talented but just doesn't show it enough.

If Semedo didn't improve, I wouldn't wait too long.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
No, no, why would you get shit? You are completely right. Sadly, I have to agree. Roberto is not a RB and even if he adapted well to the position, he doesn't have 'it' in him, unlike Kimmich, for instance.

I said it a few days ago, player like Alves is what the team misses a lot. I was talking of Semedo as a player in Barca, not in comparison with anyone else. You can see he's talented but just doesn't show it enough.

If Semedo didn't improve, I wouldn't wait too long.
For me if Semedo can't do the job I would love for us to go for Odriozola or hope Morey ends up being the real deal.
 

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