Neymar Jr. - v5
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BBZ8800
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Neydrama, season 4, episode 18: this week on your Tv.
The most popular Tv family-drama on Barca's Tv/forum
This drama should win 18 Emmys.
There isn't a more fun place on the whole internet than this thread.
And those previous 2-3 threads with 1000 pages, which needed to be deleted and burned by moderators
The most popular Tv family-drama on Barca's Tv/forum
This drama should win 18 Emmys.
There isn't a more fun place on the whole internet than this thread.
And those previous 2-3 threads with 1000 pages, which needed to be deleted and burned by moderators
Well, it`s not that fun to be honest. It`s pretty boring reading the exact same stuff over and over again, very poorly argumented, but trying to be forced as the ultimate truth.
Neymar isn`t the reason why we are playing shit. If he was replaced with any other player in the world, we would still be dominated by fucking Betis for 80 minutes. We get destroyed by a mid-table team, but I mean completely destroyed. They dominated in every aspect of that game. And after that you read stuff like "yeah, mats had one error in minute xy and neymar misplaced a pass in minute xy - sell them!"
What the hell, man. Watch the goddamn game. Our system is in shambles and we are in desperate need for a new coach and a restart. Selling Neymar wouldn`t change anything.
Neymar isn`t the reason why we are playing shit. If he was replaced with any other player in the world, we would still be dominated by fucking Betis for 80 minutes. We get destroyed by a mid-table team, but I mean completely destroyed. They dominated in every aspect of that game. And after that you read stuff like "yeah, mats had one error in minute xy and neymar misplaced a pass in minute xy - sell them!"
What the hell, man. Watch the goddamn game. Our system is in shambles and we are in desperate need for a new coach and a restart. Selling Neymar wouldn`t change anything.
God Serena
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That's fine and I don't have a problem with non fans, but I do take issue with our legacy being minimized to "Yay, MSN!"
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FlaFCB
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Don't think this is what he meant. Just that MSN will be seen as special. For a neutral pov it probably makes more sense than to whom have ties to the club, too.
dakt
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That's because we have secret gatherings in the local pub from where we attack poor Neymar.
Joke aside, Neymar is playing far from his potential no matter the system and no matter how hard you guys are justifying him. No excuses.
5 goals is piss poor for him. Even Rafinha and Arda proved to be more lethal than the player who is paid more then these two combined.
Paid almost the same as Messi? Great! Than, deliver the performance at least close to those provided by Messi.
I don't give a shit if that is Neymar or tomorrow John Doe from Nebraska.
serghei
Senior Member
We need more guys like you on this forum really. It is not that important if you are right or wrong. But you speak your mind, offer arguments, and often go against the flow of the mainstream. That's a ballsy thing to say and I respect that.
mark1nhu
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Yes, absolutely. But I am still trying to find users denying that. That was never the point of any argument here in this thread.
The point is "overreaction" (from his detractors) vs. "a little more understanding about the team current situation" (from his supporters).
Well, he is another player when playing for Brazil in a completely different system. And he has way better when our system was not in scrambles. So I don't think it is fair to dismiss the system factor like you did (you are entitled to do, I just don't agree).
The world is not black or white. There are several shades of gray.
Taking factors in consideration is not simply "justifying" or "excusing". You still can say he is subpar (and he is), while taking factors in consideration to disagree with the overreaction we see here every week.
No offense, but this is an one-dimensional analysis. You clearly know that because someone made an one-dimensional analysis on Fabregas here and you asked him to "consider all the different variables".
Here we agree. He needs to step up his performance and get closer to his high expectations (a little lower than Messi). We need him in better shape (physically and mentally) and we need a functional team to help him achieve that, because he won't single-handedly win us every game even if he steps up (just like Messi won't too).
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CatalinR10
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he was on fire in the last 10 mins , did really good getting the ball closer to the goal , he should have played like that from the start and also should have scored that 1v1 . I've lost track how many of those he missed already this season.
God Serena
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Just because you conveniently skipped over or ignored Total Football saying Neymar is two leagues better than he's ever been doesn't mean he didn't say it.
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FlaFCB
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BBZ8800
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So, now we are in a denial-phase called: "It's not Neymar's fault. It's Lucho and the system."
Of course that Lucho and the system are hurting our team, but...
Anyway, Neymar will now have an excuse till the end of a season, like:
It's not him, it is the system, this is why he is playing weaker.
We don't have a midfield, this is why he is playing weaker.
A team is not pressing/running/insert any random footballing action, this is why he is playing weaker.
So, now we'll have to wait for a new coach, and then when Neymar will (most likely) play the same as always, we'll have to wait for explanations and new alibi excuses from his fans about why he is still playing meh.
There is no point to bash him till then.
These guys will reply: it's Lucho. Can't you see? It is all about Lucho.
On the other hand, if a bad play is all about Lucho, then our treble was all about Lucho also, isn't it?
While, I get an impression on this thread lately:
1. when we won a treble with Lucho, we didn't win it because of Lucho. We won it because of a magic from MSN
2. but now when we play like a crap, it's not because of magical (or less magical) MSN, now it is ONLY because of Lucho
Or in short: when we play good, it's because of players, not because of Lucho.
While, when we play bad, it's not because of players, but ONLY because of Lucho
(Rakitic can't control the bouncing ball lately, but it is about Lucho...)
Lucho is guilty.
But some players also played a huge role in our horrible form. This guy is one of them.
Of course that Lucho and the system are hurting our team, but...
Anyway, Neymar will now have an excuse till the end of a season, like:
It's not him, it is the system, this is why he is playing weaker.
We don't have a midfield, this is why he is playing weaker.
A team is not pressing/running/insert any random footballing action, this is why he is playing weaker.
So, now we'll have to wait for a new coach, and then when Neymar will (most likely) play the same as always, we'll have to wait for explanations and new alibi excuses from his fans about why he is still playing meh.
There is no point to bash him till then.
These guys will reply: it's Lucho. Can't you see? It is all about Lucho.
On the other hand, if a bad play is all about Lucho, then our treble was all about Lucho also, isn't it?
While, I get an impression on this thread lately:
1. when we won a treble with Lucho, we didn't win it because of Lucho. We won it because of a magic from MSN
2. but now when we play like a crap, it's not because of magical (or less magical) MSN, now it is ONLY because of Lucho
Or in short: when we play good, it's because of players, not because of Lucho.
While, when we play bad, it's not because of players, but ONLY because of Lucho
(Rakitic can't control the bouncing ball lately, but it is about Lucho...)Lucho is guilty.
But some players also played a huge role in our horrible form. This guy is one of them.
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mark1nhu
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OK, 1 single guy. Let's keep piling up the names.
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