Neymar Jr.

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KingLeo10

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I am reading it this way:
1. we have a crappy coach
2. 2 years older Messi
3. horrible Suarez
4. horrible Dembele
5. Rakitic


:lol::lol::lol: The paragon of objectivity. You'd rather defend Rakitic than Messi lmao. The absolute state of this undercover Real fan.

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BBZ8800

Senior Member
Mundo Deportivo writes now that Rakitic is not a currency.
I don't know whom to believe.
Different news each hour.
MD now says that we didn't offer money at all, only players.
And that Leonardo wants only Coutinho and Semedo and is willing to close the deal if those 2 will be involved.
Regarding Rakitic, MD writes in the last hour:
As soon as Eric Abidal, technical secretary, Javier Bordas, manager and André Cury, delegate in South America, made a trip to Paris to negotiate with the PSG for Neymar, Barça's offer was to speculate on its content. Many formulas were published - money more players essentially - and in all of them the name of Ivan Rakitic appeared. Solvent sources, however, have clarified to MD that the Croatian is not a currency. Neither the midfielder wants nor the club thinks about it, nor has the PSG made any offer.

At the conclusion of this last season, there was a meeting in which the two sides made it clear that they will not move from Camp Nou. He has a contract until 2021 and his intention is to fulfill it. That is why he is not listening to proposals or answering the phone. Barça also does not handle any offer and the French club has not put its name on the table. In the Camp Nou, in addition, they clarify that a player who will complete this campaign 32 years does not have such a multi-million dollar value.

Rakitic is very upset that he is repeatedly linked to a future in Paris. So many rumors have come to make you sick, even if you don't recognize him publicly. The club has not stopped and the Valverde statements have added some confusion. In this last tour of the United States, the Barca coach commented: “(Rakitic) It is very important for us, we do not know if it will be this year, we sense that for what he brings us, his work is there. 100% guarantee one thing I don't know. I don't know if it will continue. Right now we have him just like all the players we have. ” Even so, at Barça, it is clear that it will continue.
 

Potroh

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Although Neymar is yet far away from being a Barca player once again, but nice to see that you have picked up your pen, where you have left it two years ago.

I'd rather ignore your intimate brain-farts, but there are similarly under-educated folks here, so let's talk about simple facts:


Except 2015, there aren't any stats which are in favor of Ney how he has actually strengthened a team.
Brasil is winning more trophies without him.
Psg is equal with or without him.
Barca is winning more points without him.

But people will pull again: not everything can't be explained with numbers, or you need to use you eyes, lol.

- Neymar is one of the best footballer alive, so arguing this fact by your own feelings is not truly wise. It simply tells that you dislike him, which we have been knowing for ages.

- Brazil have won one single and HORRIBLE tournament without him, it doesn't really matter, it only does in your statistics that are worthless.

- PSG was kicked from CL last year mainly because he wasn't there.

- The Barca points is such a disgustingly twisted pseudo-statistical aria, that needs no attention whatsoever.

Neymar is a player WHO LOOKS awesome.
When you look at him on a field, he looks as a gamechanger.

He looks awesome - most of the time - and he is an occasional game-changer. Everyone knows that, perhaps that's the reason why he is the most expensive player on the globe right now.

In reality, on larger samples, when you look at stats, wins and results, he is not a gamechanger, and all of his teams more or less play equally good with or without him. In fact, Barca and Brasil actually are winning more without him.

Rather typical of you isn't it?
You state some BS and because you think that's factual, you repeat it three times in a post to keep it alive and use it as a weapon of persuasion.

he will be forever injured

I admire you as an oracle, but one never knows when a player will be injured.
If you are a Barca fan (unlike me - according to you) you should never use sad injuries and their optional possibilities as weapon againt someone. That's inhuman, regardless who is the player.

he has betrayed us
he is slowing down the game and plays a type of a solo-one-man game

Betrayal has no place in professional sports.
He did something that he regretted later on. It's normal, even nice if someone is able to admit it.

Messi was an almost "solo-one-man-game" for a decade.
Some good dribbles are like that but at the same time Neymar is an exceptionally creative player to feed others with golden-balls, everyone knows that, who is capable of observing his entire game.

Griezz won't play

Not necessarily and not automatically.
A good coach would find the way to authorize all that quality and talent, way better actually than playing Griezmann as a LW.
Griezmann was an unneeded and expensive signing that will hardly change things anyway.

Alba will be ruined with him

Who the damn fucking hell cares for the 30 yrs old Alba in this

Even for free, he is bringing so many off the field and TACTICAL problems.
And especially, 27 years old, injury prone with metatarsal bone and 250M transfer fee.

Tactical problems related to the tactic-less and imagination-less Valverde? Would be a fine lesson for him to find the best solution.

27 yrs old? Very old indeed. And the almost 30 yrs old Griezmann as a new wonderboy?

Yes we all know you hate Neymar. Mostly because you watch more statistics than games.
But he is not back as yet, didn't play for Barca again, so please spare your energy continue your saga when there's something new in this operetta.
 

Leo_Messi

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Wrote back in June on multiple occasions that when every local paper (MD, Sport, L'Esportiu etc.) and radio station is reporting the same thing (Barça being interested in Neymar) on an almost daily basis there is something about this when everyone else did not believe those initial rumors.

Bartomeu has 2 years left of his candidacy. A candidacy that has lacked any genuine sporting project or long-term planning that otherwise characterized the Laporta era. In other words the Cruyff-model has been pulverized. Bartomeu and the current useless board have time and time again proven that they are more interested in buying star players with the right commercial profile (even if they are not needed) than do what is needed from a sporting perspective.

Chasing a 27.5 year old Neymar, probably past his best days and with all his baggage, is a clear sign of this. AFTER having signed Griezmann in the same transfer window moreover.

The only positive thing is that we will part ways with the gigantic flop that is Coutinho (warned against his purchase 6 months before we bought him and predicted how it would end) and possibly Rakitic. Despite Semedo being (for some strange reason in my eyes at least) hailed as some irreplaceable puzzle of the team, I could see him eventually leave as PSG is desperate to buy a solid RB. I would obviously be against it if the board does not have an equally good (perfectly better) replacement in store.

That and drama. However the main problem remains the same. Malmierda is going nowhere. For now at least.

Don't get me wrong, a fit and motivated Neymar WILL help us (if used correctly) but for how long and will it be worth it? A lot of uncertainty and unanswered questions. Not even going to talk about the obvious, the humiliating and disrespectful fashion in which he left the club in. He better publicly apologize, change his demeanor on and off the pitch and restart his football career on the highest level after the past 2 years of disappointments for club and country. At 27 there is still a bit of hope of him changing for the better. Or maybe it is the naive part of me that wants that to happen now that we look quite certain to sign him. Something I have been resigned to since June.

In any case God help us if this deal turns sour and Griezmann ends up not living up to his price tag either and potential. We will be left (just from next summer alone, let alone further away in the future) with a 33 year old Suárez (who will probably leave for peanuts next summer with 1 season left of his contract), a 33 year old Messi on an insane wage, a 29 year old Griezmann , a 28 year old Neymar and a 23 year old Dembélé that has been warming the bench under Malmierda and thus wasted another year of his development.

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"...getting rid of Rakitic is a tremendous error and Barcelona will pay for it in the long run"

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Your translation is wrong. He wrote that "parting ways with Rakitic is a grave error which the club will pay for in the not too distant future". Nothing about "long run".

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Marçal Lorente is reporting that the meeting between Barça and PSG has ended and that the two clubs are further apart from each other. PSG wants players (Coutinho and Semedo) and money. Barça insists in a player change only involving Coutinho and Rakitic without any additional money. The conversations continue.

EDIT: Back after a long and well-deserved vacation. Good to see the forum buzzing with discussions at least even if the cause of that is a very likely Neymar return of all people.:lol:
 
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BBZ8800

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Wrote back in June on multiple occasions that when every local paper (MD, Sport, L'Esportiu etc.) and radio station is reporting the same thing (Barça being interested in Neymar) on an almost daily basis there is something about this when everyone else did not believe those initial rumors.

Leo, since you live in Barca, I guess.
You were right about this part where all papers were writing about him for 3 Months.
I have mentioned the same lately, it was toooo suspicious, we need to follow those patterns in the future.

I would ask you something else since you have more knowledge about Spanish media games.
Whom do you believe in this moment?
To MD or to other sources?

Or when even MD says:
1. we offered only players
2. we offered Cou+Raki+money
3. offers regarding Semedo
4. then the others writing that losing Rakitic is a mistake
5. others writing that Semedo is not for sale

I personally wouldn't be surprised that we are willing to do any option:
1. Cou+money
2. Cou+Raki+money
3. Cou+Semedo+money
4. I wouldn't be surprised at even Cou+Raki+Semedo (even those multi-swaps are highly unlikely).

Also, I wouldn't be surprised that the article regarding Rakitic (how he won't leave) is only a part of the game.
Where we want to show how Raki can't leave so that Psg accepts it (Cou+Raki).
The same about Semedo, we act as if he can't go, yet Barto would ship him right away if Psg accepts since Roberto is a starting RB for 3-4 seasons either way...
As if: Psg, we can't give you Raki, he is indispensable..
Psg: no, that is our final offer, Cou+Raki or the deal is dead...
Barca: ok, fine... but we are giving you a favor...

So, a question:
1. whom do you believe in this moment?
2. and for the future, who to believe among MD and other sport papers regarding future dramas, transfers, elections and everything? Thanks
 
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Devils

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RMC reporting that not much progress has been made and the PSG stand firm and want a LARGE sum of money.

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Lutece FC

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If some propose only players, and other asks for money, it means that the first ones doesn't want him, and the second ones want to keep him.

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This is what i think.
 

Givenchy

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i don't think he'll be coming.

PSG are probably asking for Semedo or huge amounts of cash knowing we won't/can't afford it. i hope atleast we manage to offload Coutinho
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
If some propose only players, and other asks for money, it means that the first ones doesn't want him, and the second ones want to keep him.

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This is what i think.


Paris are just in a horrible situation. Hopefully our board doesnt make it easy for them.
 
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