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Hype - which is one of the reasons we shouldn't buy him, as he'd want a high salary
Neymar - v2
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Hype - which is one of the reasons we shouldn't buy him, as he'd want a high salary
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Flavia
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Well, he is where it matters, and that's on the field.
JamDav1982
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What do you think people base their vote on?
Of course it is base on what happens on the field, where Neymar has been rated higher than Gotze whether that is your opinion or not it has been the general opinion among those who vote on these things.
Jadentheman
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He does elasticos and sombreros. He does rainbows, hocus pocus, nutmegs. Everyone on here has seen the freaking stomp sombrero he pulled on some player. I can see him linking up with Alba, Messi, and Iniesta easily. He won't have to much like he has at Santos that is for sure. His job will be significantly easier allowing him to pull out tricks, distract others from Messi, and make plays for his teammates
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Flavia
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Hype influences as well. Bias, many things. I like Neymar more than Gotze, but the german is quite better. I'm not blind, and I've been watching santos and dortmund lately. I think Neymar missed the right time to move.
And now another thing worries me, other than his overpriced tag. The people telling him to come to Barça, that in Barça he'll be a legend like ronaldo, romario, rivaldo, dinho. Much like Alexis, who came thinking it would all be a fairy tale to play for his favorite team.
JamDav1982
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He missed the time to move? He is only just turned 21!!!
You claimed earlier that he was better in 2011 but his goal tally virtually doubled in 2012.
What has Gotze done that is a bigger achievement than Neymar?
Jadentheman
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Neymar really shouldn't be coming to Barca till he's 23 IMO because that way at least Xavi will be retired and Messi will be somewhat slower
DonAndres
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Lucas and Oscar don't use flappy samba-boy tricks like Neymar. His style works for him in Brazil but it has an UNBELIEVABLE amount of flaws to it that will all be shown in Europe. He doesn't have any strength, balance, low center of gravity, nor does he shield the ball well. All of those are skills he needs to be able to dribble well against tight, solid defenses.
Also, Lucas and Oscar play in teams that utilize space and play with counterattacks, so at times they do get the same space they would in Brazil, hence the fact that they aren't total flops (however it can be argued that Oscar is flopping right now). Neymar however, would be moving to Barcelona, where the defenses he will face are all condensed and he gets no space whatsoever. How do you think he's gonna do in that scenario?
Gotze in the same class as Neymar? He's far beyond Neymar, there is no comparison.
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Flavia
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I'm talking about what I'm seeing them both do. For me Gotze is doing better on the field, and for the price, right now I'd rather have Gotze than Neymar in Barça.
The goal tally in brazil is also misleading. Many goals are from the paulista, a joke tournament. He hasn't impress a bit against tougher oposition in a long time, and he looks stalled, compared to 2011, when he was clearly evolving.
He has also missed training for partying and marketing commitments, seems involved more in other things than football.
Jadentheman
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How is Oscar flopping right now? Considering it's his first year in the Premier League with a radical change in coaching I would say he's doing excellent. Definitely one of the exceptions to the Brazilian to England stereotype
DonAndres
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He's not flopping but on the other hand he's not really doing great (apart from the CL games at the beginning of the season). There are different ways to look at the Oscar situation and I'd say he's not as on fire as he was before, but not exactly a flop either.
Barca8
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0 because he won't be at Barca
You can add Hazard, Reus, Bale to that list Don Andres
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Jadentheman
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SUMMER 2013!! Barca Forums I will be here to see the reactions!!!
mixer
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First random vid on youtube from 2012
I checked some vids and he really performed better year ago.
A vid from 2013. Terrible performance. So much diving, lots of missed passes, pointless dribblings.
The same team year ago. So much better performance for sure.
The difference beetwen his form now and year ago is quite visible.
But his stats from 2012/13* are quite impressive; Games Started: 48 ## As a sub: 0 ## Goals: 41 ## Assists: 14
* Santos / Brazil
I checked some vids and he really performed better year ago.
A vid from 2013. Terrible performance. So much diving, lots of missed passes, pointless dribblings.
The same team year ago. So much better performance for sure.
The difference beetwen his form now and year ago is quite visible.
But his stats from 2012/13* are quite impressive; Games Started: 48 ## As a sub: 0 ## Goals: 41 ## Assists: 14
* Santos / Brazil
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