Nico Williams

[khaled_a_d]

Yeah, club is tip top. Meanwhile Florentino gets his man every time.

I get it we didn't have the money back then. But surely there was some planning in place that would have included those deals, no? The budget of a club like that isn't made on the spot or over night. At least make sure the player is on board to sign in the summer when finances should have looked better.

We instead fucked around like always, didn't have a plan B because there is zero scouting at this club and to further prove their ineptitude they want Olmo as alternative.

Zero planning, going for flavor of the month players, overpaying for bums - nothing to blame the club for.

Perez has begged on his knees for Mbappe for literally 3 years, just lost the biggest CB prospect in the world to Manu with no alternatives in sight.

Perez never had to run a club in financial crisis either, and when he had a strong opponent in his 2nd term, he won one Liga title in 4 years, and another CDR, in comparison if we won just CDR next season, then Laporta second term is equally good to that of Perez in both 1st 4 full seasons. Yeah, the great Perez who can't do anything wrong.
Not sure why bringing on Madrid, their success is almost exclusively to two men, Ancelotti and Zidane, those are the two that they have won things with. Perez is just smart to keep both.

And people love to talk about planning, and yet Entire Europe are finalising deals on August 31st with everyone racing to complete deals with minutes of margin in some deal, aren't they all planning? RM themselves lost De Gea when they were desperate to get him, over a freakin fax or whatever it was.


Transfer market is chaos; agents, families, different clubs, National team tournaments, endorsement deals, injuries, positional needs, all of those has effects that the whole "planning" that people talks about are just fan made fantasies, the same way they use meaningless terms like "closing the deal" which only means throw money on them, we don't care.

Nico and his agent negotiated with the club, it isn't like we have kept the saga open when he was telling us NO or something. And not only to us but to Chelsea & PSG.
Why would we not negotiate with him then?
Oh, yeah, because of scouting. Their are those hidden gems that we , fans, aren't paid millions to know of, but we should be the club that always knows them despite having 100 other clubs who also has people paid millions to scout and yet most fails to operate the same way people talk about. Yeah, silly me for forgetting about that.

 

[jamrock]

People always being up Perez as is he's ever managed Madrid in a crisis to the level we are now,.

Historically when one club is up the other tends to be down, but the one time both club were relatively equal, we had him for lunch.

We were better both on and off the pitch, because barto fucked us and Madrid are having some kind of voodoo run in the CL doesn't change that fact.

He's doing a good job, but would he do any better in our current situation, history suggests, No.

Also every player he's signed,Vini jr, rodrygo, guler and Endrick, he's simply thrown more money at, if we did that, fans would bitch.

that and barto being an idiot re Vini jr and rodrygo.

It's not like Williams said fuck no, clearly he's willing to come, but not this summer, he's been negotiating, but their always more than 1 party at the table, if he decides to stay at his boyhood club for 1 more season, sucks for us, but nothing wrong with that.

We Identified our target and moved for him and it's not just due to the Euros, we've expressed interest last year.

 

[jamrock]

The other day in an interview during the US tour, they asked pep about transfer.

Pep "we miss out on more targets that we get, but that's just the market, we have to accept it"

But Barcelona has to always get every single transfer right and always get our targets, the way more than one people on here make it out at times.

Because we are "broke" won't change reality, we will still have transfers that fail on the field and we will still have players choose money over us, if we can match an offer dollar for dollar or close most times a player will say yes, but into's world, players are securing the bag first.

 

[malvolio]

The other day in an interview during the US tour, they asked pep about transfer.

Pep "we miss out on more targets that we get, but that's just the market, we have to accept it"

But Barcelona has to always get every single transfer right and always get our targets, the way more than one people on here make it out at times.

Because we are "broke" won't change reality, we will still have transfers that fail on the field and we will still have players choose money over us, if we can match an offer dollar for dollar or close most times a player will say yes, but into's world, players are securing the bag first.

The fuck you're talking about? We get nearly every transfer wrong, that's the issue. We comparing City's recruitment to ours now?!

Broke but we thrown around money on useless players. Fast forward since Laporta took over again and our best attacker is a La Masia kid at 17. Hundreds of millions in fees and salaries.

 

[jamrock]

The fuck you're talking about? We get nearly every transfer wrong, that's the issue. We comparing City's recruitment to ours now?!

Broke but we thrown around money on useless players. Fast forward since Laporta took over again and our best attacker is a La Masia kid at 17. Hundreds of millions in fees and salaries.

Fuck are you talking about

Raphinha
Kounde
Christensen
Auba
Gundogan

Have all been a success.

We got Torres wrong

Oh well, that's football.

Lewa is in the middle, we'll see how roque works out.

Not sure I compare our transfers to city, I said even they miss out on players.

Imma put you in my block list, because you usually have no fucking idea what you're talking about, it's a waste of my sight to see you're text.

I certainly don't wanna hear shit from someone who would spend 80m on Alvarez, and not sign nico Williams for 58 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, fucking retard level reasoning this dude has.

 

[jamrock]

Since laporta took over, we have a net spend of about 90m on transfers.

100's of millions 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

We have about 3 players in our entire squad that is being paid above market rate, gundogan, Martinez and lewa.

Everyone else is either at or below market rate, we have cut 200m off our wage bill.

So we've spent 90m, cut our wage bill by 200m, won a league title and be competitive in Europe again.

That's ignoring building a new stadium and increasing our sponsorship income.

I would love to see the arm chair president's and SD do a better job than that 🤣🤣🤣.

 

[malvolio]

Perez has begged on his knees for Mbappe for literally 3 years, just lost the biggest CB prospect in the world to Manu with no alternatives in sight.

Perez never had to run a club in financial crisis either, and when he had a strong opponent in his 2nd term, he won one Liga title in 4 years, and another CDR, in comparison if we won just CDR next season, then Laporta second term is equally good to that of Perez in both 1st 4 full seasons. Yeah, the great Perez who can't do anything wrong.
Not sure why bringing on Madrid, their success is almost exclusively to two men, Ancelotti and Zidane, those are the two that they have won things with. Perez is just smart to keep both.

And people love to talk about planning, and yet Entire Europe are finalising deals on August 31st with everyone racing to complete deals with minutes of margin in some deal, aren't they all planning? RM themselves lost De Gea when they were desperate to get him, over a freakin fax or whatever it was.


Transfer market is chaos; agents, families, different clubs, National team tournaments, endorsement deals, injuries, positional needs, all of those has effects that the whole "planning" that people talks about are just fan made fantasies, the same way they use meaningless terms like "closing the deal" which only means throw money on them, we don't care.

Nico and his agent negotiated with the club, it isn't like we have kept the saga open when he was telling us NO or something. And not only to us but to Chelsea & PSG.
Why would we not negotiate with him then?
Oh, yeah, because of scouting. Their are those hidden gems that we , fans, aren't paid millions to know of, but we should be the club that always knows them despite having 100 other clubs who also has people paid millions to scout and yet most fails to operate the same way people talk about. Yeah, silly me for forgetting about that.

Perez got his man and did what no one else could do - get the best player in the world for free and from under the clutches of an oil state. Nobody said he can't be wrong, but over the last 5-7 years they've schooled us when it comes to transfers, planning and squad management.

 

[malvolio]

Fuck are you talking about

Raphinha - a player we want to get rid off
Kounde - fair enough he was a top CB when we got him, now we're playing him at RB when that's not his best position
Christensen - what about him? squad option.
Auba - was good for what he was, but just another passenger
Gundogan - good season, even though he was a ghost in the biggest games. now another financial burden

Have all been a success. - success as in? filling the squad with retirees and mediocre players?

 

[jamrock]

Real have schooled us in a time we've had the worst president in the history of professional sports, followed by the biggest financial crisis in club history.

Wooooooow who would have thought? Homie definitely has a Phd in sport management....

 

[jamrock]

Raphinha: we don't want to sell, our best attacker last season, scored multiple import goals in the league we on the league.

Kounde: Success no need to even say why.

Christensen: signed for free, top class in the year we won the league, top 3 defenders at the club.

Gundogan our best player last season, on a two year contract, in no way does he affect us negatively financially, Educate yourself.

Auba great signing under the circumstances, sold him for a profit

That's 5 successful signings, vs the 1 bad signing you've brought up for years, Torres is bad, get over it.

No team has 100% success rate, right now we are batter at least 70-80%.

It really is too easy destroying @malvolio points, consistently for years now 😂 😂.

That's all while your great idea, when called on to provide one instead of constantly whining, was to sell raphinha, not sign Nico and buy Alvarez for 80m.

If I were you, I'd just STFU and stick to complaining about De Jong.

 

[malvolio]

jamshite making every bum we sign into a worldclass player. top top signings, yet out of every competition by January + got schooled in every big game we played.

at the end of the day i was right on most of my predictions. but i guess wrapping shit in a pretty package somehow changes the reality.

 

[jamrock]

You have been right about absolutely NOTHING.

You're stupid enough to except every player to be WC that's your problem, one of many.

I'm tired of giving your Ls now, moving on.

All our transfers have been shit 😂, yea okay Mr.

jamshite making every bum we sign into a worldclass player. top top signings, yet out of every competition by January + got schooled in every big game we played.

at the end of the day i was right on most of my predictions. but i guess wrapping shit in a pretty package somehow changes the reality.

 

[JamDav1982]

Kounde and Raphinha were not disasters but just not really profiles needed and money could have been spent better for the team.

The club would sell Raphinha in a heart beat now if he would go but the issue is he wont leave. He lost his position to Yamal last season and will be behind him again this season.. but Yamal will need to rest more probably.

It will be 3 seasons for Raphinha and he was second choice RW to Dembele when fit first season, was second choice to Yamal by time last season ended and will be again this season.

As said he would be sold if could but he wouldnt be heavily chased by the bigger sides in Europe and wont take the SA money.

Gundo is another one.. played well but can only really play that AM now.. they tried playing him deeper and he was an absolute ghost defensively. Still class on ball but legs were definitley slowing down and in Euros and looked off pace for Germany bar the Scotland game.

Is what he brought worth 36m on the books for two seasons then gone for free? The other issue being end up with 34 yr old Gundo behind 36 yr old Lewa this season.. the money being used for that is crazy.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Jammy is back 💯🔥

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

So no Nico?

The worst news since a long time, he would have made us instantly better

He + Yamal would have been a terrific winger duo💯