Ousmane Dembélé

[Laplacian]

lol, we lost 8-2 without him to Bayern. I dont get why everyone is behaving as if we dont know he wasnt a finisher before. He is the forward with the lowest finishing skills we have had in a while. He offers other things though

Besides pace, what does he offer?
Not playmaking. We don't get any defense splitting passes from him on a consistent basis. His decision making and final pass in the final third is awful.
He doesn't take on players 1 on 1. He can't dribble in low blocks.
He can't finish.

So tell me aside from sprinting. What does he offer?

 

[Porque]

Remember all those years ago (5+) we were linked to Ben Yedder every transfer window when he was at Tolouse and then his early seasons at Sevilla. We were spoilt by having a prime Suarez (chose to sign Paco instead) then but oh my, Ben Yedder would have been really useful these past seasons.

 

[Windhook]

Roma and Bayern losses are mainly on Semedo. Anfield was a team effort, the whole squad was so complacent we are in the finals that we would have lost six goals advantage.

 

[feggydinho]

Besides pace, what does he offer?
Not playmaking. We don't get any defense splitting passes from him on a consistent basis. His decision making and final pass in the final third is awful.
He doesn't take on players 1 on 1. He can't dribble in low blocks.
He can't finish.

So tell me aside from sprinting. What does he offer?

He is not a good fit for us, but he would improve other teams. Maybe prem would fit him (just give him a 9 to pass to, that was how he and Aubamayeng played). I dont think he is useless, he just doesnt fit with us as we need someone with pace that can take people on and score (Neymar offered all). I still think he is good though and would like to see him elsewhere.

 

[Richard.H]

Roma and Bayern losses are mainly on Semedo. Anfield was a team effort, the whole squad was so complacent we are in the finals that we would have lost six goals advantage.

You can't blame Roma and Bayern only on Semedo. There are a few players I recall that didn't perform up to par for both matches.

 

[Birdy]

Chronicles of this forum is bashing on the easy scapegoat every time. This time is Dembouz
Thankfully Laporta is cleverer than posters here and has no1 priority to renew him...

He has tons of qualities, and without him on the pitch the chances he missed would not have been there in the first place.
The way he played created those chances, from his movement close to the last line of PSG defence to his touches when receiving the ball to create conditions for shooting.

He can certainly work on his finishing to improve that part of his game.
It's strange how he bangs difficult shots, but most of the time does not convert the easy ones.
It's something that can be worked out.

Having said that, I agree with the view above that his salary must be adjusted, as in general should be done for almost all of the squad

 

[KingLeo10]

Chronicles of this forum is bashing on the easy scapegoat every time. This time is Dembouz
Thankfully Laporta is cleverer than posters here and has no1 priority to renew him...

He has tons of qualities, and without him on the pitch the chances he missed would not have been there in the first place.
The way he played created those chances, from his movement close to the last line of PSG defence to his touches when receiving the ball to create conditions for shooting.

He can certainly work on his finishing to improve that part of his game.
It's strange how he bangs difficult shots, but most of the time does not convert the easy ones.
It's something that can be worked out.

Having said that, I agree with the view above that his salary must be adjusted, as in general should be done for almost all of the squad

We get it. Dembouz gives us the xG treble, which you consider more valuable.

 

[Windhook]

I doubt Koeman would give him the role of executing all those dead ball situations if he wasn't good at crossing. His winger style with dribbling, crossing and passing is just fine. He's not the finisher, but that is not his fault, we don't have anything near Suarez level anymore. If David Villa was 10 years younger we would have won another 6-8 CL trophies.

 

[Richard.H]

Chronicles of this forum is bashing on the easy scapegoat every time. This time is Dembouz
Thankfully Laporta is cleverer than posters here and has no1 priority to renew him...

He has tons of qualities, and without him on the pitch the chances he missed would not have been there in the first place.
The way he played created those chances, from his movement close to the last line of PSG defence to his touches when receiving the ball to create conditions for shooting.

He can certainly work on his finishing to improve that part of his game.
It's strange how he bangs difficult shots, but most of the time does not convert the easy ones.
It's something that can be worked out.

Having said that, I agree with the view above that his salary must be adjusted, as in general should be done for almost all of the squad

The issue is a player like him won't accept an "adjusted" salary. I don't see him as some type of a loyal player that would do the club a favor. I have no doubt he would try to leave if we try to change his salary. He is very talented indeed, but I am not sure how effective he is for this Barca.

 

[Windhook]

You can't blame Roma and Bayern only on Semedo. There are a few players I recall that didn't perform up to par for both matches.

Yep. That's why I said mainly​.

 

[Richard.H]

Yep. That's why I said mainly​.

Woke up about 30 mins ago here in the west coast in US, just caught that word

 

[Birdy]

The issue is a player like him won't accept an "adjusted" salary. I don't see him as some type of a loyal player that would do the club a favor. I have no doubt he would try to leave if we try to change his salary. He is very talented indeed, but I am not sure how effective he is for this Barca.

We will see about that. In my psychological assessment of him, I haven't concluded that.
I get why even 12m gross per year might sound too much, but when Griezman gets 45 gross with clearly significant less contribution on the pitch than Dembele, I would start with Griezman.

 

[Richard.H]

We will see about that. In my psychological assessment of him, I haven't concluded that.
I get why even 12m gross per year might sound too much, but when Griezman gets 45 gross with clearly significant less contribution on the pitch than Dembele, I would start with Griezman.

You can't just give a paycut to a player, especially one that's somewhat desired by other clubs. It's common sense really.

 

[Ahmedd]

He is too dumb to perform at the level he should be. He is like those 68 rated Fifa players with 89 pace.

 

[Birdy]

You can't just give a paycut to a player, especially one that's somewhat desired by other clubs. It's common sense really.

All squad salaries should be adjusted. Pique gets 13 gross, Busi 14 gross, even Sergi Roberto gets 9 gross. That's too much.
But you start with Griezman. 45 gross is insane, when the next one on the list gets 20 (Frenkie).
And it's unfair to talk first about Dembele getting too much (which he may), when Griez gets 3 times that and has produced thus far 10 times less what Dembouz has on the pitch.
I don't care if other clubs want him. He is not irreplaceable