Premier League 2022/2023

PL winner?


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    37

serghei

Senior Member
No.. for the years before ETH he had dropped off and not performing at 'elite' level.

You are changing your argument on every post and dont even have consistent point.

False. Xavi can improve many of the Barca players.

OK, this is new, ETH discovered Varane and Casemiro. :lol:
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Ok so we got there in end.

Varane was not at an 'elite' level or at his best in last couple seasons at Real or first at Man Utd.

ETH has helped him improve again... is he 'elite' and one of best CBs going? Not sure. Needs to play well for longer. But he has imroved under ETH compared to previous seasons.

Improvement is what it is all about with the players at hand.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Of course Xavi can improve many Barca players. In time. The discussion is he doesn't have elite players capable of putting in very strong performances now, today.

For that you need money to invest in class players. Like United did signing multiple CL winners from Madrid.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Of course Xavi can improve many Barca players. In time. The discussion is he doesn't have elite players capable of putting in very strong performances now, today.

Varane was not 'elite' for years before ETH came in and not sure he is now either to be honest but he has improved.

Improvement is all that is needed.

He has plenty of players that can perform well now... trouble is when have likes of Alba, Alonso, Bellerin and Roberto as choices at full backs and still rely on Busquets.

Those arev types dont think any coach in world is improving.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
Varane was not 'elite' for years before ETH came in and not sure he is now either to be honest but he has improved.

Improvement is all that is needed.

He has plenty of players that can perform well now.

Man, are you 10?

Varane is a 4 time CL winner and is not even 30 yet. He is an elite player, capable of elite performances, and having proven that for many many years.

Casemiro the same.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Man, are you 10?

Varane is a 4 time CL winner and is not even 30 yet. He is an elite player, capable of elite performances, and having proven that for many many years.

Varane also started very young at top level and had knee issues.. which many put his 'decline' down to.

Fact is he was not 'elite' for years before this seaosn and not 100% sure he is not but is improved.

To make out ETH walked into a squad with elite CBs like Varane performing at top level is either clueless or deluded.

Real won another CL season he left.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Klopp has lost the team.

They're garbage.

He is becoming more irritable by the day as well.

Being a right snarky cunt to media etc.

Always bad for that but used to be said with a bit of charisma and a twinkle in the eye.

Now he is an angry man attacking folk with only a twinkle in the grimacing teeth.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
As much as I don't rate SAF's European/big game tactics (compared to other all time greats), the way he built 3 great sides over 25 some years at the same club is an insane achievement.

Hasn't been repeated since.
 

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