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Gnegneri

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Some random stats.


Penalties during this season.

Real Madrid:
In favor: 5
Against: 0

Barcelona:
In favor: 0
Against: 2

Dives this season:
Real Madrid: ∞
Barcelona: 2
 

Ataraxia

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I have to agree here too. The Di Maria penalty was exact same incident happened in Milan-Fioorentina match tonight, yet that wasn't given and the Di Maria one was. I wonder sometimes how such differences influence the matches and the season. How can two similar cases for instance clearly seen by the referee have different calls ? and I'm not talking about this particular case only but in general, how much freedom is being given to the ref ? Also not only that but sometimes the ref thinks he did a mistake and then gives another penalty for the opponent or a red card for the team itself or whatever to "level" it, seriously isn't that just too much influence ? I can understand offside mistakes or whatever happening but referees should have set standards to follow when calling penalties, fouls, etc, they can't give calls according to how they read the incident.
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
I have to agree here too. The Di Maria penalty was exact same incident happened in Milan-Fioorentina match tonight, yet that wasn't given and the Di Maria one was. I wonder sometimes how such differences influence the matches and the season. How can two similar cases for instance clearly seen by the referee have different calls ? and I'm not talking about this particular case only but in general, how much freedom is being given to the ref ? Also not only that but sometimes the ref thinks he did a mistake and then gives another penalty for the opponent or a red card for the team itself or whatever to "level" it, seriously isn't that just too much influence ? I can understand offside mistakes or whatever happening but referees should have set standards to follow when calling penalties, fouls, etc, they can't give calls according to how they read the incident.

You cannot compare Italy to Spain. I have seen players die in the box from a tackle and not be awarded anything in Italy. It is normal to see tougher referees in Italy than Spain.
 

Ataraxia

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You cannot compare Italy to Spain. I have seen players die in the box from a tackle and not be awarded anything in Italy. It is normal to see tougher referees in Italy than Spain.

maybe but in the bigger picture you cant deny that the referees "subjectivity" is influencing a lot of games.
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
And over the 38 games, the top of the league stands a deserved champion with all matters evening out.

Subjectivity, objectivity, that is not something you or I, or Fifa or any federation in Europe can do anything about. It is part of the game, losing sleep or feeling bitter won't change it. First it was brutal tackling and Fifa clamped down, then came match fixing and investigations were made to clean out the game, then came diving and and referees are singling out players and taking note, god knows what the next 20 years will bring, but footballers, managers and these institutions are cunning and will resort to anything to win. We are already seeing the game become a fat chapter in the major of economics.

9 times out of ten, teams and fans alike will blame the referee for blowing too early, too late, having raised a flag, flashed a card, yada yada yada when it is them who did not finish off a game when they had the chance, did not make the right substitutions, or took their foot off the peddle.

Fact is, the moment you give a referee to make a decision is the moment you signed your life away. Don't cry when it is not your favor. Football, like life, is all about inches. Had Messi curled the ball a little wider, Julio Cesar wouldn't have made the save and Barcelona would have won the CL without any controversy. Had Drogba stabbed in one of those chances against Valdez, he wouldn't have been dragged out while shouting Disgrace to the cameras. Had Pippo Inzaghi never been let through the defense, Inter would have not been outsted from the CL semi final and restored some glory before the scandal. Had Ronaldo scored against Lazio, May 5 would have been a joyous day instead of a nightmare. Had Barcelona not fallen asleep against Betis, Madrid would have went 4 seasons without a trophy and ended Capello's superiority. Had Higuain placed the ball less than an inch to the right, Lyon would have never advanced to the round of 8 and Madrid would have broken the curse. Spain made life difficult for them against Korea before they have been wrongly disallowed a goal, so did Italy when they subbed out Del Pierro with half an hour to go.

Referees mistakes or not, teams bring demise to their door steps before referees make a bad call. It is up to you to come to terms with that or choose to be a bitter fan and blame the referees.

It wasn't the referee's fault when Real Madrid got trashed 4-0 by Liverpool because the referee didn't give Pepe a foul, it is because Real Madrid were shit. It wasn't the referee's fault for keeping Madrid in the run when Capello was in charge, Barcelona made sure they lost the league, etc...

There is an old saying and it goes something like this "the table never lies". It really never does.
 
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