Real Madrid (old thread)

[Beast]

No the difference is even when we are shit we still go for the goal in every possible way.. u pass the ball around u barely bother to increase the lead

How can i show you games when we didn't lose a lot ? we haven't let ourselves get fucked like u did several times ? you need to wait till our team reach your team state of mind.. i mean look @ Betis now (first 8 minutes before u scored ) they almost scored twice..

Stop sounding like a broken record believing that your sole problem is the ref.. u wouldn't need the ref if u bother to play for 90 min not till u score a goal

 

[ammarfcb]

No the difference is even when we are shit we still go for the goal in every possible way.. u pass the ball around u barely bother to increase the lead

How can i show you games when we didn't lose a lot ? we haven't let ourselves get fucked like u did several times ? you need to wait till our team reach your team state of mind.. i mean look @ Betis now (first 8 minutes before u scored ) they almost scored twice..

Stop sounding like a broken record believing that your sole problem is the ref.. u wouldn't need the ref if u bother to play for 90 min not till u score a goal

yh. got to admitt i get pissed at refs alot. but after about 3 minutes i calm my self down and say if we can overcome the decsions last season we should be able to do it again.
the team showed a good attitude in the second half. i expected them to give up after iniesta was wrongly yellow carded for a cryuff turn. but they showed some ruthlessness. and as much as i hated it when betis made it 2-2. it made us play better. could be the motivation we need.

would love to know what the madrid fans predict for wednesday clasico. i'm predicting a messy game from both teams after the bad week they had.

 

[El Gato]

Madrid isn't winning, that's for sure as long as you play 4-3-3. Madrid is too clumsy upfront to deal sufficient damage and too vulnerable in both midfield and defence.

 

[FCBarca]

The only game you showed any sort of focus was the Clasico..Will Power is not slacking off after one goal till the other team score.. in the world it's called complacency and not will power..

You're mixing two separate arguments, Gio...No one is denying any complacency or potential drop in focus in away matches...No one is saying it's only about the ref...However, to dodge the obvious in what happens when it comes to officiating is to simply play the same game

 

[ammarfcb]

Madrid isn't winning, that's for sure as long as you play 4-3-3. Madrid is too clumsy upfront to deal sufficient damage and too vulnerable in both midfield and defence.

with the mess the 2 are in now it's hard to predict anything but a draw. but one could really just turn the table and make a goal out of every mistake. just have no mercy from minute 1. then we would be looking at a 4+ goal win.

 

[Catalonian Devil]

You're mixing two separate arguments, Gio...No one is denying any complacency or potential drop in focus in away matches...No one is saying it's only about the ref...However, to dodge the obvious in what happens when it comes to officiating is to simply play the same game

Perfectly put FCBarca.

Madrid getting aid from the ref in tight affairs has nothing to do with Barca's clumsiness or us admitting it.

We know we need to address some issues and that we are largely to blame for our own shortcomings, however that doesn't mean we are not entitled to get aggravated when shocking refereeing decisions help Madrid keep their distance from us when they are not playing well.

 

[El Gato]

with the mess the 2 are in now it's hard to predict anything but a draw. but one could really just turn the table and make a goal out of every mistake. just have no mercy from minute 1. then we would be looking at a 4+ goal win.

You gotta remember you're always the favourites to win, no matter how much better and solid RM may or may not look. The press and media shifting the pressure to Madrid every time they think the game will be close and putting Madrid in favor to win is always an additional advantage for Barcelona, because they can be focused and motivated at the same time.

So you name it, but Barca is going to win this 1/4 final. Next match? Dunno. Either a draw or a loss for Madrid.

 

[Xavi_78]

No chance, the state we are in at the moment I think Madrid are the favourites

 

[ricknattery]

You're mixing two separate arguments, Gio...No one is denying any complacency or potential drop in focus in away matches...No one is saying it's only about the ref...However, to dodge the obvious in what happens when it comes to officiating is to simply play the same game

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[Aryagorn]

Oh my god..last night I was sure that the madridistas were going to remeber the Chelsea game again..it's pretty pathetic to have only one game to give as an example every time you want to say that Barca was helped by the reffs. Maybe we should go back to a time were Rivaldo should have had a hat-rick against you, but a stupid reff didn't allowed it or we should watch all the past matches between us and make a list with all the reffereing mistakes..anything instead of admitting that last nigh the refferee made a big mistake against Mallorca. Good for you!

 

[el tren]

The only game you showed any sort of focus was the Clasico..Will Power is not slacking off after one goal till the other team score.. in the world it's called complacency and not will power..

So did RM play very focussed until Mallorca scored? Even until they scored actually twice, counting in the offside-goal?

 

[FCBarca]

I do love Gio trying to convince the world that somehow the team that is not the best side in the world (let alone best of all time) seems to bring more out of their opponents than the current champions...A team that isn't the champion of anything...That's rich, señor...rich

 

[Beast]

So did RM play very focussed until Mallorca scored? Even until they scored actually twice, counting in the offside-goal?

CR is off form Tren , thankfully the goal they scored and Mou changes waked us up.. in your case it's different .. take last night for example..2 goals and you slept could've been different results if Betis didn't lose a player

I do love Gio trying to convince the world that somehow the team that is not the best side in the world (let alone best of all time) seems to bring more out of their opponents than the current champions...A team that isn't the champion of anything...That's rich, señor...rich

Bring what ? you are not making sense here we are more efficient than you with consistancy vs the rest of the liga..
the current champions and the best in the world and maybe the best of all time (not there yet we still have that title ) is droping points and making silly mistakes one game after the other.. except when u meet us you are more focused and have the mental edge
If RM name was Racing Santander trust me we would have beaten you the last 3 games cause you will play the same way you played Getafe,Espanyol or even last night vs Betis .. credit for the players you have who understand the rivalary as they come from your youth ranks which is what we lack
we bring out the best of Barca in the last couple of years ..your problem this year is that you don't bring it out as often vs other oponents

very simple.. so while the clasico will give you the bragging rights if you continue to play the same way we can play with the second line in the last 3 games of the season and still come out as champions Michael

My friend.. after all the conversation we had here last night was another example.. in Camp Nou and with 2-0 lead and you suddenly went to sleep and Betis made is 2-2 a red card allowed you to increase the pressure and barely made it .. there is no argument in this situation again after last night .. it's there for you to see.. and again don't get flattered by how you will play on Wednesday .. you will show your best and we will hear Barca is back.. but till you prove that after the clasico there is still so many issues within your team affecting your game beyond the easy way out of pointing to the ref ..

 

[FCBarca]

Bring what ? you are not making sense here we are more efficient than you with consistancy vs the rest of the liga..

I beg to differ mon frere, tis you who is failing to make sense - perhaps just playing coy?...Consistency with refereeing decisions tilted in the capital club favor - to the tune of 9 pts that are clear as day

the current champions and the best in the world and maybe the best of all time (not there yet we still have that title ) is droping points and making silly mistakes one game after the other.. except when u meet us you are more focused and have the mental edge

Making silly mistakes or penalized (Or profiting if you are the capital club, btw) through refereeing mistakes, eh?

very simple.. so while the clasico will give you the bragging rights if you continue to play the same way we can play with the second line in the last 3 games of the season and still come out as champions Michael

Well, at the end of the day, we both know which is the superior side...No Clasico victory has changed that under Pep

Of course, none of this is the point many here are referring too...and you know this

I understand, though, why you dodge the refereeing advantage the capital castilian club has continued to enjoy...It'd paint you into a corner that you wouldn't be able to logically argue out of...In an age where governments and institutions are globally colluding to consolidate & maintain power, it's hardly a conspiracy theory to point out that a country (With a long history of subjugating regional minorities through any means necessary) continues to play that role with the officiating

My friend.. after all the conversation we had here last night was another example.. in Camp Nou and with 2-0 lead and you suddenly went to sleep and Betis made is 2-2 a red card allowed you to increase the pressure and barely made it .. there is no argument in this situation again after last night .. it's there for you to see.. and again don't get flattered by how you will play on Wednesday .. you will show your best and we will hear Barca is back.. but till you prove that after the clasico there is still so many issues within your team affecting your game beyond the easy way out of pointing to the ref ..

I know I didn't fall asleep at 2-0 - although, honestly, I was pretty tired last night...I was awake when it was still 0-0 and I saw Betis came to play (Take notes Mou) instead of kick the team off the park...So, no, even when it was 2-0, I knew the match was far from over...If anything, that underscores how well motivated most teams are when they play Barça, the opponents don't need the assistance of the refs...unlike the capital club

You've accepted that Barça is superior yet disingenuously seem to be ok playing it up that it's Barça's failures or shortcomings that are the reason for dropped pts - not the 9 pts due to repeated officiating errors...Not sure of the logical flow of your thinking there, Gio...9 pts, mon frere...9 pts

 

[Raed]

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the non existent penalty against Seville, which Messi missed? I mean, I could obviously find more decisions in your favor that no one here has mentioned but in all realities, I can't be arsed. Because I can also find decisions against Barcelona that didn't matter because you finished the match early on in the game.