Real Madrid (old thread)

[dalitis8]

Madrid winning La Liga proves virtually nothing on its own. And I explain:

1. Refs: We have all seen the ludicrous penalty won by CR7 against Getafe, Higuain's handball against Valencia and Mallorca's perfectly legit goal disallowed. We have also witnessed the clear penalty denied to Messi against Valencia, the wrongly disallowed goal against Getafe, the handball in the Espanyol game. If the refs in Spain were remotely impartial, Barca would be handily leading the league.

2. The obscenely unbalanced nature of La Liga: After all the ref scandals, we find ourselves 5 points behind Real Madrid, with 20-odd games to go, a Classico against Madrid at the Camp Nou, and what will surely be a superior head-to-head. Despite this, Madrid are the very strong favorites to win the League. That has mostly to do, not with any Madrid superiority in terms of consistency, but with the abysmal gap between the Big Two, and the rest of La Liga. Had it been a more competitive league, (like it was circa 2000) then Barcelona would be favorites to win it, despite being at -5.

3. The fact that Barca beat Madrid 9 times out of 10 (sometimes handily) cannot be dismissed by any stretch of the imagination. The Madrid fans know this, and that is why they were so critical of Mourinho after a Copa defeat (a competition that would not really have mattered otherwise, but since it meant yet another defeat to the superior and bitter enemy, it actually meant quite a lot)

4. The Champions League is the real deal in contemporary football. That is the only real route for Mou, CR7 and co. to get their pride back. Domestic Leagues will forever be decided by your Barcas and your Madrids, but the European Cup is the toughest nut to crack by an astronomical distance. It took almost 4 decades for Barca to achieve the feat, and Madrid after their glorious early years in European competition, needed 32 long years to reach the summit again.


So, all in all, La Liga means little on its own, especially given the circumstances. The CL is the real deal.

 

[Chainsaw]

[size=+1]Jose Mourinho hasn't spoken to Kaka in four months, claims former Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon[/size]

Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho has not spoken to midfielder Kaka for four months, according to former president Ramon Calderon.

Speaking to Spanish radio station Ona FM, Calderon suggested that Mourinho looked favourably on his Spanish players, something that doesn’t sit easily with them:

“The Spanish players are not comfortable with the privileges the Portuguese has given them. For four months he has not spoken to Kaka and he does not play [midfielder Nuri] Sahin because he dislikes him.”

Kaka has been linked with a departure from Real with French side Paris Saint-Germain believed to be keen on his signature, while Sahin has played in just one La Liga game since arriving from Borussia Dortmund last summer.

Calderon resigned as Real Madrid president in 2009 following allegations of vote-rigging for the confirmation for the financial budget but he says Mourinho acts as if he is an unelected president with current president Florentino Perez stuck in the background. He added that Mourinho’s agent Jorge Mendes treats the Bernabeu as if it is his own.

“I get the feeling that there is now a debate. Mourinho is like the president and the owner, and no one voted him into office. It has been a dereliction of duties.

“Florentino’s fate is linked to the coach. Football has caused him to lose his mind because after spending 700 million and with five years in office he has won only one Cup.

“Jorge Mendes walks about as if these are his own offices and he uses the coach’s office as if it is his own.”

Calderon also called on Real defender Pepe to apologise for stamping on the hand of Barcelona’s Lionel Messi when the two sides clashed in a Copa del Rey quarter-final first-leg game at the Bernabeu on Wednesday.

“Pepe is an extraordinarily shy guy but these things are not acceptable and he should apologise,” Calderon said. “He should ask for forgiveness.”

There have been suggestions that Real will drop Pepe for a couple of weeks in order to try and allow the incident to blow over. They take on Barcelona in the second leg of their Copa del Rey clash at the Nou Camp next week but Calderon feels Mourinho does not have the tactical nous to defeat the Catalans on their own ground.

“Mourinho’s starting eleven played with a sensation of fear, trying to ‘park the bus’,” he said.

“Mourinho has not been able to discover how to win at Barcelona. It’s an obsession for Madrid and Mourinho.”

 

[Beast]

Madrid winning La Liga proves virtually nothing on its own. And I explain:

1. Refs: We have all seen the ludicrous penalty won by CR7 against Getafe, Higuain's handball against Valencia and Mallorca's perfectly legit goal disallowed. We have also witnessed the clear penalty denied to Messi against Valencia, the wrongly disallowed goal against Getafe, the handball in the Espanyol game. If the refs in Spain were remotely impartial, Barca would be handily leading the league.

2. The obscenely unbalanced nature of La Liga: After all the ref scandals, we find ourselves 5 points behind Real Madrid, with 20-odd games to go, a Classico against Madrid at the Camp Nou, and what will surely be a superior head-to-head. Despite this, Madrid are the very strong favorites to win the League. That has mostly to do, not with any Madrid superiority in terms of consistency, but with the abysmal gap between the Big Two, and the rest of La Liga. Had it been a more competitive league, (like it was circa 2000) then Barcelona would be favorites to win it, despite being at -5.

3. The fact that Barca beat Madrid 9 times out of 10 (sometimes handily) cannot be dismissed by any stretch of the imagination. The Madrid fans know this, and that is why they were so critical of Mourinho after a Copa defeat (a competition that would not really have mattered otherwise, but since it meant yet another defeat to the superior and bitter enemy, it actually meant quite a lot)

4. The Champions League is the real deal in contemporary football. That is the only real route for Mou, CR7 and co. to get their pride back. Domestic Leagues will forever be decided by your Barcas and your Madrids, but the European Cup is the toughest nut to crack by an astronomical distance. It took almost 4 decades for Barca to achieve the feat, and Madrid after their glorious early years in European competition, needed 32 long years to reach the summit again.


So, all in all, La Liga means little on its own, especially given the circumstances. The CL is the real deal.

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[size=+1]Jose Mourinho hasn't spoken to Kaka in four months, claims former Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon[/size]

Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho has not spoken to midfielder Kaka for four months, according to former president Ramon Calderon.

Speaking to Spanish radio station Ona FM, Calderon suggested that Mourinho looked favourably on his Spanish players, something that doesn’t sit easily with them:

“The Spanish players are not comfortable with the privileges the Portuguese has given them. For four months he has not spoken to Kaka and he does not play [midfielder Nuri] Sahin because he dislikes him.”

Kaka has been linked with a departure from Real with French side Paris Saint-Germain believed to be keen on his signature, while Sahin has played in just one La Liga game since arriving from Borussia Dortmund last summer.

Calderon resigned as Real Madrid president in 2009 following allegations of vote-rigging for the confirmation for the financial budget but he says Mourinho acts as if he is an unelected president with current president Florentino Perez stuck in the background. He added that Mourinho’s agent Jorge Mendes treats the Bernabeu as if it is his own.

“I get the feeling that there is now a debate. Mourinho is like the president and the owner, and no one voted him into office. It has been a dereliction of duties.

“Florentino’s fate is linked to the coach. Football has caused him to lose his mind because after spending 700 million and with five years in office he has won only one Cup.

“Jorge Mendes walks about as if these are his own offices and he uses the coach’s office as if it is his own.”

Calderon also called on Real defender Pepe to apologise for stamping on the hand of Barcelona’s Lionel Messi when the two sides clashed in a Copa del Rey quarter-final first-leg game at the Bernabeu on Wednesday.

“Pepe is an extraordinarily shy guy but these things are not acceptable and he should apologise,” Calderon said. “He should ask for forgiveness.”

There have been suggestions that Real will drop Pepe for a couple of weeks in order to try and allow the incident to blow over. They take on Barcelona in the second leg of their Copa del Rey clash at the Nou Camp next week but Calderon feels Mourinho does not have the tactical nous to defeat the Catalans on their own ground.

“Mourinho’s starting eleven played with a sensation of fear, trying to ‘park the bus’,” he said.

“Mourinho has not been able to discover how to win at Barcelona. It’s an obsession for Madrid and Mourinho.”

sign him now!!!!!!!

not speaking to mou for 4 month - he is worthy of our bench

 

[Catalonian Devil]

[size=+1]Jose Mourinho hasn't spoken to Kaka in four months, claims former Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon[/size]

Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho has not spoken to midfielder Kaka for four months, according to former president Ramon Calderon.

Speaking to Spanish radio station Ona FM, Calderon suggested that Mourinho looked favourably on his Spanish players, something that doesn’t sit easily with them:

“The Spanish players are not comfortable with the privileges the Portuguese has given them. For four months he has not spoken to Kaka and he does not play [midfielder Nuri] Sahin because he dislikes him.”

Kaka has been linked with a departure from Real with French side Paris Saint-Germain believed to be keen on his signature, while Sahin has played in just one La Liga game since arriving from Borussia Dortmund last summer.

Calderon resigned as Real Madrid president in 2009 following allegations of vote-rigging for the confirmation for the financial budget but he says Mourinho acts as if he is an unelected president with current president Florentino Perez stuck in the background. He added that Mourinho’s agent Jorge Mendes treats the Bernabeu as if it is his own.

“I get the feeling that there is now a debate. Mourinho is like the president and the owner, and no one voted him into office. It has been a dereliction of duties.

“Florentino’s fate is linked to the coach. Football has caused him to lose his mind because after spending 700 million and with five years in office he has won only one Cup.

“Jorge Mendes walks about as if these are his own offices and he uses the coach’s office as if it is his own.”

Calderon also called on Real defender Pepe to apologise for stamping on the hand of Barcelona’s Lionel Messi when the two sides clashed in a Copa del Rey quarter-final first-leg game at the Bernabeu on Wednesday.

“Pepe is an extraordinarily shy guy but these things are not acceptable and he should apologise,” Calderon said. “He should ask for forgiveness.”

There have been suggestions that Real will drop Pepe for a couple of weeks in order to try and allow the incident to blow over. They take on Barcelona in the second leg of their Copa del Rey clash at the Nou Camp next week but Calderon feels Mourinho does not have the tactical nous to defeat the Catalans on their own ground.

“Mourinho’s starting eleven played with a sensation of fear, trying to ‘park the bus’,” he said.

“Mourinho has not been able to discover how to win at Barcelona. It’s an obsession for Madrid and Mourinho.”

I'm all for Calderon rubbing salt in the wound and everything, but how would he know this kind of stuff?

 

[oggmar]

I'm all for Calderon rubbing salt in the wound and everything, but how would he know this kind of stuff?

Contacts still within the club? I don't know.



I wonder though, is it true that Real Madrid has indeed suspended Pepe for 2 weeks, or is it more so that Marca wants them to?

 

[Chainsaw]

And why you buy a player (Sahin) if you don't like him?! No wonder this morning some rumors came out about Inter being interested in getting Sahin on loan.

 

[Aryagorn]

That Calderon guy is fuckin' mental guys... As much as I'd like this to be true, that guy has spoken out of his arse way too many times to consider this seriously. Not credible

 

[FCBarca]

It's convenient enough to toss Pepe under the bus and rightly so since he's long been a douche...but I do believe Mou is culpable in all of these matters, as well...He's shown poor sportsmanship from the very beginning and is a poster boy for many of the deplorable problems in the sport...Don't kid yourself to think that there wasn't express instructions to do as much as possible to wind up and intimidate Barça...There was a lot of attempts at manipulating the referee that gave it a look of last year's fiasco

That's why anytime I hear nonsensical musings that Mou is actually a 'nice guy' in real life I'm not impressed...Proof is in the proverbial pudding and he's the lead douche who simply employed as many other douches as possible to exercise douchery to the highest order...Let him run back to England where apparently that is celebrated rather than admonished for how despicable it truly is

 

[Aryagorn]

You're mistaken FCBarca... The Mr. "Nice Guy In Real Life" is Pepe man

 

[yusuf]

Madrid winning La Liga proves virtually nothing on its own. And I explain:

1. Refs: We have all seen the ludicrous penalty won by CR7 against Getafe, Higuain's handball against Valencia and Mallorca's perfectly legit goal disallowed. We have also witnessed the clear penalty denied to Messi against Valencia, the wrongly disallowed goal against Getafe, the handball in the Espanyol game. If the refs in Spain were remotely impartial, Barca would be handily leading the league.

2. The obscenely unbalanced nature of La Liga: After all the ref scandals, we find ourselves 5 points behind Real Madrid, with 20-odd games to go, a Classico against Madrid at the Camp Nou, and what will surely be a superior head-to-head. Despite this, Madrid are the very strong favorites to win the League. That has mostly to do, not with any Madrid superiority in terms of consistency, but with the abysmal gap between the Big Two, and the rest of La Liga. Had it been a more competitive league, (like it was circa 2000) then Barcelona would be favorites to win it, despite being at -5.

3. The fact that Barca beat Madrid 9 times out of 10 (sometimes handily) cannot be dismissed by any stretch of the imagination. The Madrid fans know this, and that is why they were so critical of Mourinho after a Copa defeat (a competition that would not really have mattered otherwise, but since it meant yet another defeat to the superior and bitter enemy, it actually meant quite a lot)

4. The Champions League is the real deal in contemporary football. That is the only real route for Mou, CR7 and co. to get their pride back. Domestic Leagues will forever be decided by your Barcas and your Madrids, but the European Cup is the toughest nut to crack by an astronomical distance. It took almost 4 decades for Barca to achieve the feat, and Madrid after their glorious early years in European competition, needed 32 long years to reach the summit again.


So, all in all, La Liga means little on its own, especially given the circumstances. The CL is the real deal.

LoL i dunno why you undermine la liga so much? its still the most important trophy and i would favor winning it over the CL as long as madrid dont get their 10th

 

[Antimilan]

Perez to Mourinho: I'll buy La Liga for you, but beat Barca for god's sake !

 

[IrvDizzle]

if Barça beats Real in May, and Real win the league then the article I posted yesterday is 100% true

"Real Madrid Might Own La Liga, But They Belong to Barça"

 

[Ryan_Cule]

 

[FCBarca]

From the school of Mou