Raul will see little time and i don't think he will be third choice ...he will slowly phased out of the team and retire with honor ...
that's the plan and i said back in March on another forum and i repeated it again.. Perez will not forget what Raul said.. and this one positive aspect of Perez return
according to FIGO (once again), someone who is forming the team tried to retire raul, but couldn't. you know something about that beast???
read it on my email the Sid Lowe original report which is off course more detailed then goal.. here
Robben is not helped by his status as a marquee signing and electoral promise of the former president Ramón Calderón – the only promise he delivered on. Privately, however, Madrid doubt their chances of recovering the €36m he cost from Chelsea.
Madrid remain determined to sell players, even if they do not recuperate their original fees, and would also consider loans. Together, Sneijder, Drenthe, Robben and Van Nistelrooy account for almost €10m a year in wages, while Diarra is on €2.8m, Saviola €2.5m and Heinze €2m.
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the good thing is .. it leave a totally Spanish central midfield from our youth system par the 2 DM's
Guti-Parejo-Javi Garcia-De La Red
that's exactly what we argued about the other day...remember??? the reason why i think robben will be included in a deal. in fact, it would be good if the bald one footed dutchy can land real madrid ribéry or xabi alonso (more likely) in the end.
great midfield, from a cantera/spanish point of view. i'm thrilled with de la red and parejo, they are so talented and if both manage to break through, hells bells...
PS: still crossing my fingers for de la red!!!
Maybe Diarra + Negredo + Heinze for Xabi as their final offer? And Robben + VDV + Saviola for Ribery?
that's way too much for xabi alonso. not to meantion, that in the end, negredo will IMO be used to finally get david villa.
and with regards to ribéry...sneijder + VDV it's gonna be and WOULD DO FOR SURE. the only reason why this has not been done so far is, again IMO, the high wages of both players. bayern will have serious problems to pay that much, but on the oportunity of having sneijder and VDV, they would certainly jump.
I might be wrong though but i think Real Madrid Brazilian cliche last time Perez was in the office has left a bitter taste in his mouth.. that's the only way i would understand the availability of Sneijder,Robben and Huntelaar
good point, i would add "eye for an eye" to that. calderon sold all of pérez beloved brazilians (r. carlos, robinho, ronaldo, baptista, cicinho, emerson etc...) and replaced them with dutchies. i guess it's a mix of what you said, the eye for an eye thing and above all, that the club now looks like having made up their mind on one thing: if there is to be a dominating group regarding nationalities, it has to be spanish. kinda like going from brazilians, to dutchies and end up with spaniards.
Here's what I think happened last year regarding Javi Garcia.
IMO, he is the missing link btwn RM's Defense and midfield. He didn't play well because of the groupies outside of football. Mainly here was the Castilla group he was in, the Guti-Raul-Salgado group (I'd think that they'd be part of the Castilla group?), the Dutch National team group, the Argie group, and some loners. Every single player in the Castilla group (Casillas, Javi himself, de la Red in a way kinda, Miguel Torres) all suffered bad patches together. If the Dutch group leaves Madrid, I'm willing to bet that those guys will play like world-class players that they were promised to be.
He just needs trust from the fans, the team, and the staff (Calderon had absolutely 0 trust for the great players of the Castilla in the first team).
you are not far off .. i read the Argies had a big clash end of the season after the classico mainly
Raul is in a group with Guti & Salgado.. he would never be in a group with Castilla... he fear for his position and they always sticked together...
Iker-Ramos -Miguel Torres-De La Red-Parejo-Javi Garcia ..etc and every other Madrid youth player are in Iker group
then you have those who are in the middle.. M Diarra - Marcelo..etc have Iker tendencies
Higuain was the smartest cookie .. he was able to penetrate Raul and be friend with him.. Heinze is the team clown which everyone love .. he is a leader of the Argie squad..
Ruud is the god father of all dutchies par Robben & VDV.. i read how he took Huntelaar to his house and talked to him about Real and the team and gave him advise about how to coup .. he is at the same time a loved person by all groups .. if there is someone behind the recent influx of dutch players it's Ruud.. u won't find a single player who don't love him..
very good points made...i would love it to see javi garcia finally showing his FULL POTENTIAL. i know he can do it and would be really sad to see him leave and put in exactly that with a team other than real madrid.
IMO, parejo, de la red (touch wood) & javi garcia could rule reals midfield for a very long time once they all break through.
last but not least, some "lighter" paper talk...todays MARCA front page claims, that real madrid are now going after fábregas again
AS claim, that pérez has singeld out ribéry as the last strategic galactico signing for this summer after kaka' & c. ronaldo. pérez apperently has put 55m € aside for the signing of ribéry. the fact that zidane hasn't stoped praising ribéry and has not spoken alike about any other player, convinved pérez, that ribéry is SPORTING WISE, a sure bet and made him a priority.
bayer still is very keen on sneijder & VDV and valdano will push ard in order to include these two players in the deal.
ribéry is said to have made it clear, he not only would only want a move to real, but also would be willed
to force a move!!!
last but not least, AS talk about the idea of pérez for madrids midfield behind the striker, where david villa remains no.1 target.
c. ronaldo-------kaka'-----------ribéry
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