Real Madrid (old thread)
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Metaphysical
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they drew 2-2 at old trafford and lost 3-1 in the bernabeu.
this was a team with an average age of 21/22 competing in their first european campaign. AGAINST the wishes of the national fa.
it's always difficult to say "what if" but to dismiss the babes as standing no chance of toppling madrid is both insensitive and tbh quite ignorant. just because they're from the land of overhype, doesn't mean they weren't actually made of the right stuff.
this is classic beast condescension.
you do realise united won a european title in the 60's right? the golden era of football? they're not "new" to europe. in fact they're older in europe than liverpool and juve who didn't get success 'til the 70's and 80's. but anyway...
your argument is fallacious. it's got nothing to do with how many CL's you win. barca and united won't win a couple more CL's and then realise "OH HANG ON! WINNING IN EUROPE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN WINNING AT HOME! LET'S DO THAT!"
until 11 years ago european appearances went hand-in-hand with domestic league wins. you couldn't get one without the other, and getting league wins ensured a near-constant presence in europe. to real madrid, league success (of which they had a fuckton between '66 and '98) became the norm and european success became this elusive holy grail. you always want what you can't have.
every team wants the european cup, teams like barca and united definitely want more success in europe. but they also understand the value of being champions of your own country, the pride one takes in that status. ask eddy how much being champion of your country means. it's a massive achievement. to quote pep "winning the league was the most important because it says that you are the best team."
liverpool fans all want the league, they have for ages. this "focus" on the champions league is only because apart from this season they're usually out of the title race by january so have nothing else to play for. inter look to europe NOW because they're confirmed domestic kings and want to climb the other mountain that has eluded them. had you asked them how much winning the scudetto mattered BEFORE they had done it for the first time in ages, the answer would have been a fucking lot. I can't explain milan. I don't think anyone can. berlusconi is a rat.
real madrid undervalue domestic success because of the arrogant notion that "we can always win another liga" - they have had so much domestic success they don't appreciate it anymore. they take it for granted (juve are the same, well they were before calciopoli). even now you have a potentially world-class manager in fabio capello shunted out of the door because he couldn't deliver in europe. to me that's not something to state proudly, it's fucking shambolic and why, outside of madridistas, no one really likes your club.
a good title drought and you'll soon be changing your tune.
Metaphysical
Bomb Dropper
also wenger to madrid would probably be the most intriguing managerial appointment ever.
I mean wtf?!
I mean wtf?!
Beast
The Observer
winning one CL is not enough to be considered a European power otherwise Steaua is one.. lol so no neither N. Forrest are one nor Man U (back then ) or Celtic are one..
Man U started to realize the glamor of Europe after the 99 one and now more then ever..
you have to have a constant record in Europe to be considered one.. back in 06 it was all u wish for..u will still be second in command in the catch up game if u win this year your priority will be totally different
and no Mr. Ignorant we did have a title drought for 4 years and it wasn't enough to keep Capello just cause he won it..
you support both Man U & Barca so it's hard for you to understand .. we are not playing catch up with anyone so our priorities are different .. mainly Liverpool,Milan & us can understand so with respect to your point of view it's totally inaccurate
Metaphysical
Bomb Dropper
firstly, I do enjoy debating with you so don't take anythin' too personal. :beer2:
again, ask liverpool fans about what they'd rather win.
you've gotten used to domestic success so you don't appreciate it as the barometer of true class and greatness.
4 years is not a drought. I meant something like 10 years, maybe more. like with liverpool.
Raed
Dr. Raed St. Claire
Metaphysical, Madrid's name goes hand in hand with Europe. No other team gets the same focus as much as Real Madrid in Europe when we crash because we are known for it having the most wins.
Ten year league drought? That is nonsense. No such thing
Either way Baluda declared the elections:
Boluda announces today the election
* · El club quedará en manos de la Junta Electoral · Boluda también puede analizar la necesidad de hablar con la plantilla para evitar un final desastroso The club is in the hands of the Electoral Board Boluda may also analyze the need to speak with the staff to avoid a disastrous final
Today begins the future of Real Madrid. A las 20.00 horas, en la sala de Juntas del Bernabéu, Vicente Boluda y sus directivos van a poner fin a su mandato en el Real Madrid ya proponer a sus colaboradores la convocatoria oficial de elecciones, lo que supondrá poner en marcha todos los mecanismos para que el club quede en manos de la Junta Electoral y éste órgano haga sus funciones de árbitro del proceso electoral hasta la investidura de un nuevo presidente. At 20.00 pm in the boardroom of the Bernabeu, Vicente Boluda and its directors will end his term on the Real Madrid and his colleagues propose to call the election official, which will implement all the mechanisms for The club is in the hands of the Electoral Board and the body makes its functions as arbitrator of the electoral process until the inauguration of a new president.
Con la temporada resuelta a nivel deportivo, el conjunto blanco acelerá la solución de varios asuntos a nivel de despacho para que se ponga en marcha todo el proceso que dará lugar al comienzo de un nuevo proyecto del Real Madrid. With the season determined to sporting, the set target speed up the resolution of several issues at the office to get this whole process leading to the start of a new project of Real Madrid. Con la convocatoria de las elecciones, se abre un proceso que culminará el 14 de junio, o antes si sólo se presenta un candidato. With the call for elections will open a process that will culminate on June 14 or earlier if only one candidate.
La Junta Directiva de esta tarde tendrá como tema monográfico la convocatoria de elecciones y todo el proceso que esto supone. The Board will issue this afternoon the case to the electorate and the whole process that this entails. Pero se pueden tratar otros temas deportivos, como la necesidad de que Boluda hable con la plantilla para que reaccionen y acaben la temporada con más dignidad. But you can try other sports, such as the need for Boluda talk to the staff to respond and end the season with more dignity. El Real Madrid se despide de su afición contra el Mallorca en el Bernabéu y todos quieren hacerlo con un buen sabor de boca. Real Madrid bids farewell to its liking against Mallorca at the Bernabeu and everyone wants to do with good taste.
Ten year league drought? That is nonsense. No such thing
Either way Baluda declared the elections:
Boluda announces today the election
* · El club quedará en manos de la Junta Electoral · Boluda también puede analizar la necesidad de hablar con la plantilla para evitar un final desastroso The club is in the hands of the Electoral Board Boluda may also analyze the need to speak with the staff to avoid a disastrous final
Today begins the future of Real Madrid. A las 20.00 horas, en la sala de Juntas del Bernabéu, Vicente Boluda y sus directivos van a poner fin a su mandato en el Real Madrid ya proponer a sus colaboradores la convocatoria oficial de elecciones, lo que supondrá poner en marcha todos los mecanismos para que el club quede en manos de la Junta Electoral y éste órgano haga sus funciones de árbitro del proceso electoral hasta la investidura de un nuevo presidente. At 20.00 pm in the boardroom of the Bernabeu, Vicente Boluda and its directors will end his term on the Real Madrid and his colleagues propose to call the election official, which will implement all the mechanisms for The club is in the hands of the Electoral Board and the body makes its functions as arbitrator of the electoral process until the inauguration of a new president.
Con la temporada resuelta a nivel deportivo, el conjunto blanco acelerá la solución de varios asuntos a nivel de despacho para que se ponga en marcha todo el proceso que dará lugar al comienzo de un nuevo proyecto del Real Madrid. With the season determined to sporting, the set target speed up the resolution of several issues at the office to get this whole process leading to the start of a new project of Real Madrid. Con la convocatoria de las elecciones, se abre un proceso que culminará el 14 de junio, o antes si sólo se presenta un candidato. With the call for elections will open a process that will culminate on June 14 or earlier if only one candidate.
La Junta Directiva de esta tarde tendrá como tema monográfico la convocatoria de elecciones y todo el proceso que esto supone. The Board will issue this afternoon the case to the electorate and the whole process that this entails. Pero se pueden tratar otros temas deportivos, como la necesidad de que Boluda hable con la plantilla para que reaccionen y acaben la temporada con más dignidad. But you can try other sports, such as the need for Boluda talk to the staff to respond and end the season with more dignity. El Real Madrid se despide de su afición contra el Mallorca en el Bernabéu y todos quieren hacerlo con un buen sabor de boca. Real Madrid bids farewell to its liking against Mallorca at the Bernabeu and everyone wants to do with good taste.
Poor_Sunyol
In Lucho we trust!
Fucking arabs.
Beast
The Observer
Raed
Dr. Raed St. Claire
U know Sunny Raed.. he loves to be under the Veil all the time
Oh yeah for sure. Realizing the potential fun he can have under the veil has given him new perspective onto life.
Poor_Sunyol
In Lucho we trust!
Damn right! I bet you'd like to know what I am doing with my hands right now...
Irish_Cules
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Who do you guys reckon will be the manager next season?
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