Ronald Koeman

Barcilliant

Senior Member
Get Bielsa here. Give him a free fucking hand. Yes, he won't get any signings but at least he can purge the fucking amigos and start something new. Lay a base or foundation.
Xavi would be another Pirlo. Those who want Xavi are just hoping lightning strikes twice. Xavi is no Pep. Laporta just got lucky and we struck gold. People also forget how fucking good that squad was. The quality of the current squad is not 1/10 of the 08-09 squad.
 

Bobo32

Senior Member
4) is true though. Tuchel is at Chelsea, Pep happy at City, Klopp happy at Liverpool, Ten Hag new deal at Ajax, Naglesmann at Bayern, Flick going to the national team - none of those definitive upgrades is available to replace Koeman.
Just want to point out, if these are the current world class coaches:

Erik ten Hag is 51 years old and have coached Ajax for four years, before that Bayern II and a couple of minor dutch teams. He had one good run in the CL and has won the dutch league.
Flick had worked for 15 years as an assistant, suddenly was world class after bringing Bayern a CL.
Nagelsmann is pretty unproven right now I'd say. A lot of hype obviously, but what proof is there of him handling a world class squad to regular trophies? Did he win ANY title yet?
Klopp and Tuchel I don't know, I guess these two german coaches have worked themselves up and proven to be world class through good results at Mainz and then Dortmund...
Pep is very much proven right now, but, as we know, wasn't proven when he got the job.

The only choice at this point is either to stick with Koeman or go for an unproven coach and hope we unearth another gem. If not it's just going to be another mediocre manager without a clear vision and system on how the team should play who will bow down to players that have won more honours than him.

Yes, as with Rijkaard or with Pep.
The job of those deciding on the next coach is to have a sense of who would fit at Barcelona and make the right decisions here, in the unique situation of the club. It's not at all about listing trophies at other places, or who is "world class" or not. If you do that you are at least one step behind.
Koeman is more and more proven to not be the right man.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
2) Isn't that just logic though, you can't have a manager go into a country where he doesn't speak a word of the language, how the fuck is he going to communicate.

How was Tuchel communicating in Paris? How was Van Gaal communicating in Munich and Barca. They could hire a translator or eventually learn Spanish just like De Jong or Mats did. It's better to have a good coach with translator than a mediocre one that knows Spanish.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Get Bielsa here. Give him a free fucking hand. Yes, he won't get any signings but at least he can purge the fucking amigos and start something new. Lay a base or foundation.
Xavi would be another Pirlo. Those who want Xavi are just hoping lightning strikes twice. Xavi is no Pep. Laporta just got lucky and we struck gold. People also forget how fucking good that squad was. The quality of the current squad is not 1/10 of the 08-09 squad.

I dont think theres much in common between Xavi and Pirlo. The latter seems more like the introverted type, which just doesnt work in coaching. Unless you have the authority and charisma of someone like Zidane. Pirlo has neither, his demeanor is far too chill.

For me theres only one valid reason why we shouldnt go for Xavi - his old pals. If we take the rebuild seriously and make a deep cut this window that problem partly solves itself though. But we have to be committed. Other than that 40/41 is a great age for a coach, so I dont know how his lack of experience applies. Would rather have someone young with fresh ideas.
 
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malvolio

Senior Member
might have dodged a bullet with pochettino going to paris.

koeman doesn't have the personnel, that much is obvious. but he doesn't have a plan for the future either. fumbled with tactics all year round, mismanaged every important game we played and hasn't got a clue about players he wants or just fucks around with the ones he has.
 

fergus90

Senior Member
How was Tuchel communicating in Paris? How was Van Gaal communicating in Munich and Barca. They could hire a translator or eventually learn Spanish just like De Jong or Mats did. It's better to have a good coach with translator than a mediocre one that knows Spanish.

Van Gaal speaks Spanish, no idea how Tuchel was communicating. Didn't have a great time of it though with those egos. Speaks crystal clear English over here though.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Get Bielsa here. Give him a free fucking hand. Yes, he won't get any signings but at least he can purge the fucking amigos and start something new. Lay a base or foundation.
Xavi would be another Pirlo. Those who want Xavi are just hoping lightning strikes twice. Xavi is no Pep. Laporta just got lucky and we struck gold. People also forget how fucking good that squad was. The quality of the current squad is not 1/10 of the 08-09 squad.

Lol Bielsa
He'd quit in first 3 weeks
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Bielsa would tank Barca like he tanked the Argentine NT.

Seriously though. Next manager should be someone they plan and think can be here for at least three seasons. Ideally five.
 
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Porque

Senior Member
Yesterdays subs

Ronald Araujo (injr) >>> Sergi Roberto
Pedri >>> Mingueza (Bob to Midfield)
Antoine Griezmann >>> Braithwaite
Ousmane Dembele >>> Dest
Sergi Roberto >>> Puig

Would these subs (and rotations for that matter) have had us top of LaLiga?

Ronald Araujo (injr) >>> Eric Garcia
Pedri >>> Wijnaldum
Antoine Griezmann >>> Aguero
Ousmane Dembele >>> Depay
Sergi Roberto >>> Puig

Of course Araujo for Roberto in a back 3 ahead of Mingueza was a bonehead move. Not that Mingueza was any good versus Atleti of course.
 

Porque

Senior Member
I nearly had a heart attack reading this. I hope it's trolling.

Agreed.

But at the same time, what does it matter if Valverde returned at the current time. If Rakitic would have stayed Koeman would probably be playing this.

Stegen
Araujo-Pique-Lenglet
Roberto------------Alba
---Rakitic-Busquets-FdJ---
-------Messi-Griezmann----

So yeah. Not much difference. Just an extra CB instead of an extra midfielder (prob Pjanic in a 442).
 

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