Sandro Rosell

[Indignado]

I would love for Laporta to make a comeback and challenge Rosell for the presidency. I would vote for Laporta all day any day... (But the finances need to be sorted out, I like the fact that we are lowering the debt last couple of seasons )

I agree with everything, reducing the debt is the only thing Rosell is really good at but in the end we're a football club and not a company.

 

[Barcaman]

What has he done now?

Sometimes it seems like Rosell gets a blame for every bad thing that happens.

 

[Corb]

Sometimes it seems like Rosell gets a blame for every bad thing that happens.

 

[Catorce]

Sometimes it seems like Rosell gets a blame for every bad thing that happens.

True. But you can't say Rosell is doing THAT great, there are things as a fan I disagree on doing. The shirt sponsorship began with Unicef, but I believe at that time there were already plans to go further and have what we have now. Even though I know the club is making 35M a year on it, it is something I would rather not see. Next, Zubi's performance as technical director (don't know his position name, but that's how we call it here in Holland) are poor and usually don't make much sense. The struggle with Vilanova about what players to get is ridiculous, you either trust your coach or you don't. He doesn't want Hummels, the board does. What the fuck? Please keep the politics for the presidency campaign and leave it out of our club in the meantime. Sick and tired of hearing the struggles between the board and others at the club.

Lowering the debt has been going well, so that is a good plus for Rosell's presidency. The appointment of Tito wasn't bad, but not being able to keep Pep has been a loss. Neutral on that. Transfers haven't been great, so I'd say a minus for that. Finally, making the club more 'commercially aware' has pros and cons. I am neutral on that, but idealistically I would have no shirt sponsor and have us design our own shirts instead of some marketing shithead at Nike doing it.

 

[oz187]

You can't blame Rosell for transfers, he can allocate the money, he can negotiate the deals(which he's done well on), but the actual transfers are decided the technical director with input from the coach. Zubi's transfers:

Afellay
Mascherano
Adriano
Alexis
Cesc
Alba
Song

Only Afellay isn't part of the team anymore but he was only 3M.

 

[jamrock]

Lowering the debt must be taken with a bit of salt, because be all standard account practice he over inflated in the first place, because he had to in someway try and let laporta look bad and having something that he can say he achieved during his presidency

 

[Catorce]

You can't blame Rosell for transfers, he can allocate the money, he can negotiate the deals(which he's done well on), but the actual transfers are decided the technical director with input from the coach. Zubi's transfers:

Afellay
Mascherano
Adriano
Alexis
Cesc
Alba
Song

Only Afellay isn't part of the team anymore but he was only 3M.

Come on, the chairman/president is in the end responsible for everything that happens at the club. That means he is also responsible for one if his men, Zubi, and his actions.

- Afellay; was the best in the Dutch league, but never got a good shot here and got injured. But financially not a bad transfer.
- Adriano; injured ALL the time, just not up to Barca standards in my eyes
- Mascherano; good buy, might be a tad expensive but he was the best CB we had last year. Which is good for Masche, but painful for us to acknowledge. Fucking CDM being our best CB...
- Alexis; love to keep him, but we payed A LOT.
- Cesc; love to keep him, but we payed A FUCKIN LOT.
- Alba; steal of the year, absolutely fits in perfectly. Very good buy, and the price is right.
- Song; starting to improve, but 19M is way too much.

All in all, you can or cannot agree with me, but I think we consistently overpay for our acquisitions. And THAT is Zubi, and Rosell's, fault. We are crap at selling player and maybe even worse at buying players for a good price.

 

[Indignado]

I don't think we overpay on our transfers but we just didn't buy the right players. In the end, we payed 34m+variables for Cesc and he was one of the best players in the world at that time. Song, Afellay, Alba and Masch were also bought below market value.

 

[oz187]

All in all, you can or cannot agree with me, but I think we consistently overpay for our acquisitions.

I disagree.
- Afellay; 3M was a bargain(the CL semi assist against Real paid for his entire fee I would say).
- Alba; Bargain.
- Cesc; Bargain. He was the best player in the Premier League and his market value was 60M.
- Adriano; You can't predict injuries, he was only 10M and he's played a reasonable amount and covered a lot of different positions. He's also scored crucial goals in helping the team win La Liga. If we sold him we'd get most of it back, maybe even a profit.
- Mascherano; We got him a bit below market value. He was also necessary because we sold Yaya. Played CB in the Champions League final and did a good job.
- Alexis; We payed a lot but below market value, but he was the best player in Italy. We also paid less than other teams were offering and he also accepted lower wages.
- Song; He's done a decent job covering for Busi when called upon. He was also one of Arsenals best players. 19M is about right. If it is overpaid, it's not by much.

To be honest, I don't see any overpaying. Some of the transfers didn't work out as good as they could have(Cesc not being Xavi, Alexis not scoring too much, Song not adjusting to CB) but those are sporting mistakes to be blamed on Zubi, Pep and Tito, and not the fault of Rosell.

 

[darthvader7888]

- Cesc; Bargain. He was the best player in the Premier League and his market value was 60M.

Not to mention he was great in the first half of this season, and a big part of why we got such a big lead and won the league, even though he wasn't that great in the second half of the season.

 

[lovebarca]

I disagree.
- Afellay; 3M was a bargain(the CL semi assist against Real paid for his entire fee I would say).
- Alba; Bargain.
- Cesc; Bargain. He was the best player in the Premier League and his market value was 60M.
- Adriano; You can't predict injuries, he was only 10M and he's played a reasonable amount and covered a lot of different positions. He's also scored crucial goals in helping the team win La Liga. If we sold him we'd get most of it back, maybe even a profit.
- Mascherano; We got him a bit below market value. He was also necessary because we sold Yaya. Played CB in the Champions League final and did a good job.
- Alexis; We payed a lot but below market value, but he was the best player in Italy. We also paid less than other teams were offering and he also accepted lower wages.
- Song; He's done a decent job covering for Busi when called upon. He was also one of Arsenals best players. 19M is about right. If it is overpaid, it's not by much.

To be honest, I don't see any overpaying. Some of the transfers didn't work out as good as they could have(Cesc not being Xavi, Alexis not scoring too much, Song not adjusting to CB) but those are sporting mistakes to be blamed on Zubi, Pep and Tito, and not the fault of Rosell.

great post.
Rosell is accountatnt so he will never pay more money than he has to that's for sure.
But as oz's pointed out those are not right target at that time,so that is problem.So problem is with scouting network,zubi or coach decision to select those players.
And actually not all players just problem is with song only because we could have gone for proper CB at that time in place of him.But may be wanted competition for Busi at CDM and backup fo CB which doesn't work out.So whoever thought song can work at CB is the main culprit for this transfer.

 

[Catorce]

You can disagree that's fine, but saying he won't ever pay more than needed because he is an accountant is the most strange things I have ever heard of. There are tons of examples where people from the world of international business go into football that do utter shit because the experience they have in business does not prepare them for the footballing world. Not saying Rosell is doing completely shit, but him being accountant does not make him better at buying/selling players.

 

[Eetu]

Rosell is accountatnt

I hate Rosell as much as the next guy, but no need to throw insults like that.

 

[lovebarca]

I hate Rosell as much as the next guy, but no need to throw insults like that.

I am not insulting him.I am saying he is not comes from football background but he knows how football buiseness works and good salesman.I like it that part of that he never pays more than needed.

 

[lovebarca]

You can disagree that's fine, but saying he won't ever pay more than needed because he is an accountant is the most strange things I have ever heard of. There are tons of examples where people from the world of international business go into football that do utter shit because the experience they have in business does not prepare them for the footballing world. Not saying Rosell is doing completely shit, but him being accountant does not make him better at buying/selling players.

that's true.you can see that after arriving him,all of our transfer buying saga got tooooo long and in the end he always wantedd players to say that he wants to move to barca so that negotion can be soften to lower limit.almost every of our transfer goes tooooo much long or public saga.