This. I mean a guy like Pedro wants more minutes, your not going to get a Pogba or Reus happily sitting on the bench. Waiting for injuries or rotations.
Spanish Super Cup: Barca - Bilbao 1-1 (1-5 agg.)
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This. I mean a guy like Pedro wants more minutes, your not going to get a Pogba or Reus happily sitting on the bench. Waiting for injuries or rotations.
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Horrible defeat of course. What was the last time a player scored 3 goals in one game against us?
DonAK
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Forlan in 2005.
barcafan161
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8 goals given up in 2 games is worrying...
SocalBarcaFan
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I agree with this. You can't make wholesale changes in any area of the pitch and get consistent results. If the first choice midfield is rakitic-busquets-iniesta then at least one has to start every game. Preferably 2.
If we didn't have Iniesta/Rakatic/Busquets/Pique/Alba/Bravo to substantially improve our team for future games, I'd be a lot more worried. Monday will be a lot more telling. I assume we'll be playing a real lineup then.
Thank god it's not a real game, and that it has two legs.
Thank god it's not a real game, and that it has two legs.
Lucho overestimated our midfield. Rafi and Sergi just failed to control such demanding game. We also underestimated Bilbao's tactical and physical ability. This should be e good lesson for us and we must win the return game if not with 4 goals - at least with dominant performance.
namaria
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its Our fault that we played such "long" game, had 4-1 and rest is history.
no excuses for such lost, Barca isnt middle table team .
pitty we didnt score 1 goal!
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Cruijffista
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It's nearly impossible to win the sextuple at this elite level. It was easy, it would been done more than once at this level. Much props to Pep for being able to accomplish it.
I'm not mad about the game but this crop of La Masia graduates (Rafinha, Robert, Bartra) are merely fringe squad players at best. Lucho showed faith in them and they just got bullied. He had no other choice but to play them. Barca will have paper-thin squad depth until January.
I'm not mad about the game but this crop of La Masia graduates (Rafinha, Robert, Bartra) are merely fringe squad players at best. Lucho showed faith in them and they just got bullied. He had no other choice but to play them. Barca will have paper-thin squad depth until January.
Neeraj
Senior Member
My thoughts:
On the game - As many called it, Lucho went in for a second string lineup, keeping the league in mind, which I agree with, and paid the price. Must say, up to this point in the pre-season and the couple of official games we've had, our defence does look quite worrying, even though it has been make-shift. Not too bothered with this score or the trophy tbh, hope we rest Messi in the return leg.
Squad Depth - This is the most worrying part for me as a fan. You can talk about the transfer ban, but it's more than that, really. The sporting directors have done a horrendous job of keeping the supply pipeline functioning, right from the time the decline of the 2011 historic team started. We let Thiago go, got in (and then out) a bunch of Arsenal failures and then of course we got hit by the ban. Our first team is obviously the best team on the planet - I'm afraid to say the likes of Chelsea, City, Madrid, Bayern, heck maybe even United, Arsenal, Sevilla, Bilbao, etc. would be comfortably beating us if we were to play a B team vs. B team - we're not even close to competitive with our backups.
Players Bartra isn't good enough. He has got minutes now, and we have been shown with no uncertainty that he isn't good enough. Roberto - 4 years on, still asking myself the same question, as to why he is in our first team. Ter Stegen - Extremely low on confidence, sorry to say, Bravo has now established himself (or rather MaTS has done it for him) as our undisputed better quality keeper (for now, at least). Not too worried about Adriano, don't think he is going to feature in key moments, especially when Vidal is available (assuming that's going to be one of the positions he can rotate for).
Overall - Some worrying signs of a weak defence early on in the season, while our midfield continues to be paper thin in depth. However, let's not fret about this result and the cup in isolation, it means nothing, if this means we're more prepared and fit for the league, so be it. Let's hope we rest Messi and some others who need rest in the second leg, really no point going all guns blazing for the return.
On the game - As many called it, Lucho went in for a second string lineup, keeping the league in mind, which I agree with, and paid the price. Must say, up to this point in the pre-season and the couple of official games we've had, our defence does look quite worrying, even though it has been make-shift. Not too bothered with this score or the trophy tbh, hope we rest Messi in the return leg.
Squad Depth - This is the most worrying part for me as a fan. You can talk about the transfer ban, but it's more than that, really. The sporting directors have done a horrendous job of keeping the supply pipeline functioning, right from the time the decline of the 2011 historic team started. We let Thiago go, got in (and then out) a bunch of Arsenal failures and then of course we got hit by the ban. Our first team is obviously the best team on the planet - I'm afraid to say the likes of Chelsea, City, Madrid, Bayern, heck maybe even United, Arsenal, Sevilla, Bilbao, etc. would be comfortably beating us if we were to play a B team vs. B team - we're not even close to competitive with our backups.
Players Bartra isn't good enough. He has got minutes now, and we have been shown with no uncertainty that he isn't good enough. Roberto - 4 years on, still asking myself the same question, as to why he is in our first team. Ter Stegen - Extremely low on confidence, sorry to say, Bravo has now established himself (or rather MaTS has done it for him) as our undisputed better quality keeper (for now, at least). Not too worried about Adriano, don't think he is going to feature in key moments, especially when Vidal is available (assuming that's going to be one of the positions he can rotate for).
Overall - Some worrying signs of a weak defence early on in the season, while our midfield continues to be paper thin in depth. However, let's not fret about this result and the cup in isolation, it means nothing, if this means we're more prepared and fit for the league, so be it. Let's hope we rest Messi and some others who need rest in the second leg, really no point going all guns blazing for the return.
Cruijffista
SOY ANTIMADRIDISTA
I saw both Rafinha and Roberto starting with no Busquets and I immediately hoped for a draw and a chance to win it at the Camp Nou.
Sucks that the game had to be played on 2 fucking days rest after the UEFA Super Cup. It's not an excuse but rather an indictment on the players that La Masia is producing right now. They just can not be counted on.
Sucks that the game had to be played on 2 fucking days rest after the UEFA Super Cup. It's not an excuse but rather an indictment on the players that La Masia is producing right now. They just can not be counted on.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
We are excellent when we have 11 fit players and when we are fully motivated.
In this Season, we will lack both parts for large parts of the season, it seems.
It is too early.
The team is still in a dreamland after winning a Champions league.
We will have a nice number of defeats and draws till a new year, when players will maybe wake up.
It is way, way too early now.
I feel like watching 2006-07 Season all over again after our glorious, long awaited success in 2006'.
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