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Ryu Hayabusa

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Here we go again, "Bayern is favorite", "Bayern is the best eva" and so on. They have had it just as easy, if not easier than us with the drawings, and they have looked less than stellar.

Easier than Schalke and an utter shit Atletico? Yeah, right. :D



And yeah, 7-0 and 6-1 were really less than stellar performances. Real would have easily won 12-0 respectively.
 

Patricho

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No way in hell we were favorites back in 2013 . We struggled against one of the shittiest Milans of all time , and we eliminated PSG on away goals .

Yeah, but you were running away with the league and still had Messi, making you favorites by default ;) (even if he was unfit). We were stigmatized for our awful 2nd place year the season before, being branded perennial bottlers.
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

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I don't feel Barca have to revenge themselves for 2013. If anything Bayern revenged themselves for 2009. That 0-4 in Camp Nou was the most humiliating defeat I've had to endure as a Bayern fan.


No, not by a long shot. Last season's 0-5, courtesy of Pep, was much more humiliating. In 2009 we had Oddo and Lell (!) as our Fullbacks (Lell even had to defend against Messi of all players... lol) and Klinsmann as our "manager". What the fuck were people expecting was gonna happen?
Last season we were the big favorites to win back2back CL titles.
 

Patricho

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No, not by a long shot. Last season's 0-5, courtesy of Pep, was much more humiliating. In 2009 we had Oddo and Lell (!) as our Fullbacks (Lell even had to defend against Messi of all players... lol) and Klinsmann as our "manager". What the fuck were people expecting was gonna happen?
Last season we were the big favorites to win back2back CL titles.

True, last year's defeat hurt in that nobody expected Real to trash us whereas in 2009 everyone had expected Barca to dominate us. However, the gulf in quality in 2009 was much bigger than last year with Real. Yes, Real was the much better team and destroyed us, but in 2009 we had no chance whatsoever at any point. The tie was over in the first 30 minutes. Barca could have scored a dozen goals, if they had wanted we were that inferior. It was down to quality. Last year, it was down to tactics.

Also, last year didn't bother me as much as 2009, because of our amazing year in 2013, whereas after our encounter with Barca in 2009, I thought that we will never win the Champions League in the next decade. ^^
 
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Morten

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True, last year's defeat hurt in that nobody expected Real to trash us whereas in 2009 everyone had expected Barca to dominate us. However, the gulf in quality in 2009 was much bigger than last year with Real. Yes, Real was the much better team and destroyed us, but in 2009 we had no chance whatsoever at any point. The tie was over in the first 30 minutes. Barca could have scored a dozen goals, if they had wanted we were that inferior. It was down to quality. Last year, it was down to tactics.

It doesnt exactly help that Bayern destroyed all competition in bundesliga(robbing every potential rival of their best players). You get no truly competitive matches in bundesliga, so Bayern gets a bit caught of guard in the cl when they meet teams that can actually damage them. But this is Bayerns fault, they didnt want any competition in the league.
 

Patricho

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It doesnt exactly help that Bayern destroyed all competition in bundesliga(robbing every potential rival of their best players). You get no truly competitive matches in bundesliga, so Bayern gets a bit caught of guard in the cl when they meet teams that can actually damage them. But this is Bayerns fault, they didnt want any competition in the league.

Bayern wants competition. The board credited Dortmund's resurgence for Bayern's success in 2013. If you're talking about Götze and Lewandowski. They would have left anyways. But instead they would have played in England or Spain. So i dont see how Bayern destroyed the competition in the league.
You're right in saying that the lack of competition last year hindered Bayern in their CL campaign. We were badly out of form and even struggled against Moyes' United. It also didn't help that Pep said the league is over, taking off the pressure for the rest of the season. You can't play several league games like they are friendly games and then suddenly turn up against a team like Real. Hopefully this year will be different, even if we will have the league wrapped up by next week.
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

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No way in hell we were favorites back in 2013 . We struggled against one of the shittiest Milans of all time , and we eliminated PSG on away goals .

Of course Barca were the big favorites in 2013. Everybody still referred to them as "the best team in the world". Up until that fateful semifinal which went down in history...
 

xavi_the_Boss

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Of course Barca were the big favorites in 2013. Everybody still referred to them as "the best team in the world". Up until that fateful semifinal which went down in history...

How were we big favourites?
Needed a historic comeback against Ac Milan and got through against PSG with away Goals.:lol:
Even struggled to beat Real Betis in the Camp Nou around that time.
 

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