Vitor Roque (loaned to Real Betis)

[khaled_a_d]

That is everything above 31m we paid, Then Atletico percentage (20% of profit), Cruzeiro percentage as parent club per FIFA rules (around 2% of any sale). After this they share 30% of what is remaining for 1 year and 20% in 2nd year.

Ab example of the above: if we sell Roque for 40M in 2026.

0.8M goes to Cruzero

31M goes for Barca, cover what we paid for him.

Then from remaining 8.2M, Paranense gets 1.64M

Remaining 6.56M, Betis will get either 30% in first year, or 20% in 2nd year.

That is less than 2M best case scenario.

If it is 70M somehow:
Cruzeiro gets 1.4M
Barca 31M covering old transfer fee. 37.6M profit.
Paranense gets 7.52M

Remaining is 30M
Betis gets 20% or 30%, that

% of capital gains, to incentivize the loan is pretty common these days.

Only thing is that they should have an expiration period. Because if for example we bring Roque back and he is a first team player for 5 years for us, then any capital gains is from being a Barcelona player and not that period at Betis.

Which should then be reduced, at best, to a lower formation percentage it anything.

It is said in the article you sent, first year they get 30% and 2nd they get 20%
So, if he plays 2 years in Betis, return in 2026, in 2026-2027 they get 30% of his sale profit, in 2027-2028 they get 20% of his sale profit.

 

[DonAK]

Will follow some Betis games for sure. Rooting for him to do well.

The way his transfer and everything was handled was a disaster from day one.

 

[MontenegrinCuler]

Will follow some Betis games for sure. Rooting for him to do well.

The way his transfer and everything was handled was a disaster from day one.

1 September against none other than Real Vardrid👌👌Bobby vs El Tigre in direct 1v1

Good chance to prove himself at the very start

 

[DonAK]

1 September against none other than Real Vardrid👌👌Bobby vs El Tigre in direct 1v1

Good chance to prove himself at the very start

Would be a fantastic start for sure.

 

[malvolio]

Will follow some Betis games for sure. Rooting for him to do well.

The way his transfer and everything was handled was a disaster from day one.

Following Betis games now, who are you kidding? You'll probably watch once, get bored and get on with your life.

The disaster part of the transfer was the actual scouting or lack of it beforehand. The rest was pretty fair, coaches saw he is terrible and they told the club to get rid.

 

[JamDav1982]

Not what happened but carry on.

 

[DonAK]

Following Betis games now, who are you kidding? You'll probably watch once, get bored and get on with your life.

The disaster part of the transfer was the actual scouting or lack of it beforehand. The rest was pretty fair, coaches saw he is terrible and they told the club to get rid.

Won't watch every game of course, but will try to follow when I have the opportunity.
Don't be so miserable all the time man.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Will follow some Betis games for sure. Rooting for him to do well.

The way his transfer and everything was handled was a disaster from day one.

I agree. This was shameful from us.

 

[jamrock]

Every self respecting Barca fan will be keeping an eye on betis if/when they can.

 

[Masetro10]

What's funny is this era of Barcelona has been having a new golden era of youth talents breaking through and yet Roque still failed spectacularly. They should really just stick with what works and buy proven #9's as they have for the last idk 25 years.

 

[Joan]

I agree. This was shameful from us.

What’s so bad about it? Apart from getting him in the first place.

 

[DonAK]

What’s so bad about it? Apart from getting him in the first place.

Bringing him in 6 months in advance for no reason when Xavi was firmly against it and was begging for a CDM instead.

Can say signing him was a mistake as well, but everything else from that point made it progressively worse. He basically became a victim of a war between Deco/the board and Xavi.

Went from playing regularly to barely playing at all. From likely being in Brazil's Copa America squad at that point to being left out due to lack of minutes.

 

[Joan]

Can say signing him was a mistake as well, but everything else from that point made it progressively worse. He basically became a victim of a war between Deco/the board and Xavi.

Not really buying into the theory Xavi benched him out of spite. Think what happened is the sporting department overrated the player and thought he could contribute / fit in and threaten Lewa this season.

 

[ZenI]

Will he get any minutes tonight?

 

[Porque]

When Endrick comes on. They are going to spend the whole game staring at eachother until they both come on.