Badger
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No wonder. He is very important for Manchester United and he suits the Premier League.
Edit: I thought this was like a tranfer rumour section.
Sorry guys still getting adjusted to this forum.
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Wayne Rooney
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No wonder. He is very important for Manchester United and he suits the Premier League.
Edit: I thought this was like a tranfer rumour section.
Sorry guys still getting adjusted to this forum.
Metaphysical
Bomb Dropper
I think he always was interested.
despite the overwhelming evidence for him just being past-it and not interested anymore, it seems as though the stories about him not being over the injury were actually true. who'd a thunk it, eh?
A post i came across on one of the United forums i thought would make for interesting discussion and also because i don't concur with the above.
Those who like to downplay and undermine Leo's talent and achievements almost always bring up the quality of the midfield at his disposal. While having such a brilliant midfield is a boon to any forward, it doesn't, however, guarantee greater success for it depends as much on the contributions of the man upfront. Those making ridiculous assertions such as the one above conveniently forget the challenges Leo has to overcome on a weekly basis despite the midfield only made possible by his superior talent and skills.
Lets factor the following -
- The tactics of the oppositions. Those who play against us set out differenty than they would against Man Utd. Our majority opponents show no ambition, sit deep and 'd happily defend for the 90 if needed. This means you 've smaller pitch to work with. You need players who 're skilled in tight spaces and intricate passing. A Messi specialisation. Would Rooney who thrives in the counter-attacking system of Man U be as effective when facing 8 men behind the ball on a weekly basis?
- The treatment of Messi. He usually has a man or two marking him every game, yet the lad manages to get away and make things happen. Can Rooney do the same if he were in similar situation? Lets not forget Leo gets hacked and fouled every game and still keep things going. Not sure Rooney with his temper can get on with it with minimal fuss.
- Messi's prolificacy which is much due to his off-movement and finishing is better than anyone else's of his generation.
- The impeccable chemistry and telepathy with Xaviesta which facilitates our one touch passing game, 1-2s, reading each other's runs/movement, all essential to unlock the most stubborn defences is a result of years of playing together. Would Rooney compliment the midfield in the same manner?
People forget that not only is he imp to our forward play but also to our midfield's ball retention, propel the attack, creating spaces & assisting with his playmaking which is quite frankly underated by a lot of them. Still get to the end of things to finish the moves and hit such absurd productivity.
To suggest x,y,z can walk in to this team and achieve a 50 goal tally on our midfield's assistance alone exhibits footballing ignorance. Much of Messi's goals were individual brilliance and the rest were a product of great link-up and interplay with his teammates. He's even our highest assister ffs. We are witnessing history by a modern great and some of the united fans claim an inconsistent Englishman to replicate this feat on foreign soil.
I've also seen them rate Rooney's long-range passing to be better than Messi's. For someone who's watched him since he made the grade i can positively say he's only next to xaviesta in that department (certainly for me). Its just that he doesn't drop as deep as in seasons past that would 've us witness this aspect more often.
So whats the forum consensus? I certainly would like to hear Meta's views on it as hes such a wooney fan.
Footiefan
New member
That was some random post.. I dont know anyone would even agree with the post saying Rooney would score 50 goals.
And Rooney is better than Henry(Barca).
English media overrate him, and he is very underrated here. He is world class. People say he had average season, still he has contributed a lot to the team and it is no co incidence that we started to play well when Rooney was back to form.
And Rooney is better than Henry(Barca).
English media overrate him, and he is very underrated here. He is world class. People say he had average season, still he has contributed a lot to the team and it is no co incidence that we started to play well when Rooney was back to form.
Trequartista
The good
He is awesome,those who deny that are those who doubt him are those who hate everything english without even seeing him,has beeb brilliant since he probablysigned the new contract and his new position with the prescence of a player who is always willing to make the direct run in Chicarito he looks like he found his best oartner ever
Think he is more of a plamaker with decent goalscoring abilities nowadays and it looks that Sir Alex plans to use him in midfield post scholes
gingerless
Active member
agree... but fix that post up before you hurt somebody
Metaphysical
Bomb Dropper
A post i came across on one of the United forums i thought would make for interesting discussion and also because i don't concur with the above.
Those who like to downplay and undermine Leo's talent and achievements almost always bring up the quality of the midfield at his disposal. While having such a brilliant midfield is a boon to any forward, it doesn't, however, guarantee greater success for it depends as much on the contributions of the man upfront. Those making ridiculous assertions such as the one above conveniently forget the challenges Leo has to overcome on a weekly basis despite the midfield only made possible by his superior talent and skills.
Lets factor the following -
- The tactics of the oppositions. Those who play against us set out differenty than they would against Man Utd. Our majority opponents show no ambition, sit deep and 'd happily defend for the 90 if needed. This means you 've smaller pitch to work with. You need players who 're skilled in tight spaces and intricate passing. A Messi specialisation. Would Rooney who thrives in the counter-attacking system of Man U be as effective when facing 8 men behind the ball on a weekly basis?
- The treatment of Messi. He usually has a man or two marking him every game, yet the lad manages to get away and make things happen. Can Rooney do the same if he were in similar situation? Lets not forget Leo gets hacked and fouled every game and still keep things going. Not sure Rooney with his temper can get on with it with minimal fuss.
- Messi's prolificacy which is much due to his off-movement and finishing is better than anyone else's of his generation.
- The impeccable chemistry and telepathy with Xaviesta which facilitates our one touch passing game, 1-2s, reading each other's runs/movement, all essential to unlock the most stubborn defences is a result of years of playing together. Would Rooney compliment the midfield in the same manner?
People forget that not only is he imp to our forward play but also to our midfield's ball retention, propel the attack, creating spaces & assisting with his playmaking which is quite frankly underated by a lot of them. Still get to the end of things to finish the moves and hit such absurd productivity.
To suggest x,y,z can walk in to this team and achieve a 50 goal tally on our midfield's assistance alone exhibits footballing ignorance. Much of Messi's goals were individual brilliance and the rest were a product of great link-up and interplay with his teammates. He's even our highest assister ffs. We are witnessing history by a modern great and some of the united fans claim an inconsistent Englishman to replicate this feat on foreign soil.
I've also seen them rate Rooney's long-range passing to be better than Messi's. For someone who's watched him since he made the grade i can positively say he's only next to xaviesta in that department (certainly for me). Its just that he doesn't drop as deep as in seasons past that would 've us witness this aspect more often.
So whats the forum consensus? I certainly would like to hear Meta's views on it as hes such a wooney fan.
you've made a nice post here, but all you really had to say was: "that's bollocks. Messi is a better player than Rooney, pure and simple. Xavi & Iniesta don't SUPPLY him, he LINKS with them to create his chances. he feeds them as much as they feed him. it's a symbiotic relationship and that's why Barcelona are the best in the world; they truly work as a TEAM. it's not supply and demand like when Valencia, Giggs and Nani were dropping crosses onto Rooney's head in 09/10."
silky_soccer
Fireman Sam
Yup, He has been a midfielder/striker for a while, playing more as the former. Position ive always wanted him in tbh. Was fantastic there in 05/06 behind Ruud. Fantastic football brain and passing. Also means with his workrate that Chicharito can play in wembley and Stretch the Barca defence.
La Furia
Legion of Doooom
silky_soccer
Fireman Sam
What a player!
one of the best in world footbal without a doubt.
Rooney > Ronaldo
one of the best in world footbal without a doubt.
Rooney > Ronaldo
diegomessi
Anxiously waiting for the next match
your joking!?
silky_soccer
Fireman Sam
Nope.
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