World Cup 2022

[FinBarcelonafan]

Really stupid system. Yellow cards not wiped after the group stages and whatever happened to 3 yellows and then suspension. I think that was a thing before

I agree. This is boring.

 

[eaman]

Outside the Euros, where Spain did fine, this style of play has not worked well internationally or in UCL for about 10 years now.

Possession is fine, but but basing your game around keeping the ball at all cost is painfully predictable, and has been found out.

I don't agree. They just had a bad day and no world class strikers. Full backs were poor also yesterday. I think if they'd got past morroco the rest of the games would've been more open and easier just like the euros where they scored and had other clear chances against italy. One team has to keep up this style for the good of the game and it might as well be rhe best international team at it in spain

 

[Daniele]

Yeah, Argentina should have replaced Messi with Dybala like 5 years ago.

Of course it wouldn't have made sense.
Maybe a renewal could start after this world cup.


I wouldn't be surprised if Messi himself says goodbye to the national team again (this time for real)

 

[Windhook]

Of course it wouldn't have made sense.
Maybe a renewal could start after this world cup.


I wouldn't be surprised if Messi himself says goodbye to the national team again (this time for real)

We've talked about it 5 years ago this WC 2022 to be Leo's last dance on the international scene. I don't see him playing at 39 in USA 2026.

Some tough transition years ahead for Argentina NT.

 

[BBZ8800]

I don't agree. They just had a bad day and no world class strikers. Full backs were poor also yesterday. I think if they'd got past morroco the rest of the games would've been more open and easier just like the euros where they scored and had other clear chances against italy. One team has to keep up this style for the good of the game and it might as well be rhe best international team at it in spain

They had 1 win in 6 matches on Euros
This time 1 win in 4 matches

 

[Porque]

Outside the Euros, where Spain did fine, this style of play has not worked well internationally or in UCL for about 10 years now.

Possession is fine, but but basing your game around keeping the ball at all cost is painfully predictable, and has been found out.

This style will always come to fine margins, even in its peak Spain won penalty shootouts in the trio of tournament wins. They could have very well got knocked out by Italy, Paraguay and Portugal on penalties and we would be saying what we are now- back then.

 

[JamDav1982]

Spains biggest issue is the quality of players compared to other top sides... and Lucho of those players he has picking Busi over Rodri etc.

Barca and Spain are only two teams in world that rate what Busi brings and no other top team is looking for that type of player either.

I said before they played Germany the midfield should be Rodri, Koke and Pedri but Lucho would never do it.

 

[JamDav1982]

They had 1 win in 6 matches on Euros
This time 1 win in 4 matches

They were one of best sides at Euros first couple games when they could have won 4/5-0 on other days and their system worked for most part.

This WC was different.

Cant have Gavi as the main AM and him making fucking 9 passes a game and have Pedri sitting deeper as cant get ball through Busquets.

Pedri was best midfielder at last Euros when allowed to focus more on final third and Koke sitting more for him.. Lucho flipped that and had Pedri sitting deeper and Gavi as AM... Gavi doesnt pass ball well enough for that and has issuee finding space to get on ball too often. Then made it even worse by playing an ever older and slower Busi at DM rather than one of top DMs in world in Rodri.

Croatia have won 1 of 4 games this WC as well but folk seem to think that and winning no games in normal time in last WC kos deserves more respect. It is easy to try and use certain stats to make a point.

 

[BBZ8800]

They were one of best sides at Euros first couple games when they could have won 4/5-0 on other days and their system worked for most part.

This WC was different.

Cant have Gavi as the main AM and him making fucking 9 passes a game and have Pedri sitting deeper as cant get ball through Busquets.

Pedri was best midfielder at last Euros when allowed to focus more on final third and Koke sitting more for him.. Lucho flipped that and had Pedri sitting deeper and Gavi as AM... Gavi doesnt pass ball well enough for that and has issuee finding space to get on ball too often. Then made it even worse by playing an ever older and slower Busi at DM rather than one of top DMs in world in Rodri.

Croatia have won 1 of 4 games this WC as well but folk seem to think that and winning no games in normal time in last WC kos deserves more respect. It is easy to try and use certain stats to make a point.

About Pedri in 2021 vs 2022, this time WC is midseason where all teams are fresh and in form.
Maybe a part of Pedri/Spanish displays at Euros 2021 came from France and England being dead tired after a long season and teams playing deep CL runs.
Pedri was young, without too much mileage on his backs and others were dead tired for 10 years in a row.

This time, when it's mid season and when even older players aged 33 or 35 are still fresh, Spain and Pedri struggled way more.

Maybe it's Gavi, maybe it's bad luck.
Maybe it is mid season.

There are tons of factors.

From what we know from Barca, in midseason, where everyone are fresh, Pedri was meh in 2 seasons in a CL and Uefa league.

 

[JamDav1982]

About Pedri in 2021 vs 2022, this time WC is midseason where all teams are fresh and in form.
Maybe a part of Pedri/Spanish displays at Euros 2021 came from France and England being dead tired after a long season and teams playing deep CL runs.
Pedri was young, without too much mileage on his backs and others were dead tired for 10 years in a row.

This time, when it's mid season and when even older players aged 33 or 35 are still fresh, Spain and Pedri struggled way more.

Maybe it's Gavi, maybe it's bad luck.
Maybe it is mid season.

There are tons of factors.

From what we know from Barca, in midseason, where everyone are fresh, Pedri was meh in 2 seasons in a CL and Uefa league.

Nah lame excuse.. Pedri had played record minutes for a 17/18 year old so can try that.. he was freasher than others idea again.

Stop exsposing your ignorance by claiming Pedri went into that Euros 'without much mileage' and as if being 17/18 was some advantage as 'young'.

You are completely wrong to compare Pedri and Arthur on ball. Pedri has more range, is more proactive with it... while defensively he is much better also.

Just make shit up and state as fact as usual.

Again stop your ignorance by claiming Pedri was 'meh' in CL when he played 2 games last season of the 6 and did not have a pre season so far from fresh.

Pedri was fine in CL. Was one one of best players away to Bayern. Scored away to Inter when was wrongly chopped off etc.

You genuinely dont even have a clue half the time with thes opinions.

Pedri was best mid at Euros and that was off of a season where played more as many games as anyone in Europe and at 17/18. Try to find another 'reason' for that than that effort of him being 'fresher' than others.

 

[gregorrin10]

Need to see favourites not slipping up and see that Brazil-Argentina and France-Portugal insane semifinals. Both Messi and Cristiano to take on the two biggest favourites and honestly the two best teams in this tournament. Can one of them make it and get the chance at the holy grail (again)? Can both make it for what would be the most anticipated WC final in history?

Although Cristiano might have to settle with watching from the bench if Portugal want to have any chance of winning.

 

[Jadentheman]

It?s Lahoz ! Pray for Messi

 

[raskolnikov]

Im putting money on a Frenkie yellow card. Easy money since besides a foul, Lahoz hates complaining and questionimg his authority since hes a dick that makes everything about himself.

 

[Andresito]

Im putting money on a Frenkie yellow card. Easy money since besides a foul, Lahoz hates complaining and questionimg his authority since hes a dick that makes everything about himself.

He received a yellow in the last game. Would think he'll be careful not to get suspended if they reach the SF.

 

[JerseyAddict]

Need to see favourites not slipping up and see that Brazil-Argentina and France-Portugal insane semifinals. Both Messi and Cristiano to take on the two biggest favourites and honestly the two best teams in this tournament. Can one of them make it and get the chance at the holy grail (again)? Can both make it for what would be the most anticipated WC final in history?

Although Cristiano might have to settle with watching from the bench if Portugal want to have any chance of winning.

If Arg meets Portugal in the finals only chance for Arg to win is that CR plays... Sad fact but true.

But I think French attack would chop the Portugal defs to pieces...