Xavi Hernández

[Barcilliant]

Dude are your fingers so fat you always press 8 and 9 instead of i and o?

I got big, thick hands from manual labour and weights. Wrists are almost 8 inches at 5 foot 8.

 

[serghei]

Dude, you have the habit of kinda embarrassing yourself with deluded claims, just in order to hold on to an original position, and not accept being proven wrong

Take Arsenal players one by one and compare them to Barca's:

I will give you that Partey > Busi (although if Partey was playing here people would think otherwise)
Then it's a clear slippery slope

Stegen > Ramsdale
Kounde > Saliba
Araujo >> Gabriel
Balde > Tiernie
FDJ > Xhaka
Pedri > Odegaard
Gavi > Lokonga or other
Dembouz > Saka
Lewa > Jesus
Fati =? Martinelli

Yeah, sure Arsenal have better players.
Keep embarrassing yourself to protect Xavi

PS: Imagine Arteta having Barca's squad.
How many points he would lose in the whole ePL season?

Delusional beyond belief.

Balde over Tierney or Zinchenko
Dembele over Saka
Partey over any of our midfielders?
Ansu over Martinelli

and the list goes on.

Lewa, Pedri/Gavi (certainly not both), Kounde, De Jong. That is it. Araujo maybe, although he is shit on the ball, certainly not a clear case. Even De Jong vs Xhaka is close at DM.

 

[serghei]

Let's debunk once and for all that propaganda as well.

That's the table the night Koeman got fired:

RM 24 pts
Sociedad 24
Sevilla 22
Betis 21
Rayo 19
Atleti 19
Osasuna 19
Bilbao 17
Barca 16

9th place with 3-pt (1 win) gap from 5th place, and 8pt gap from the top

Has Serghei ever seen a table in any league the first 10, 15 or even 20, matchdays where teams that NEVER finish in the top6 are there?
Does anyone think that had Koeman stayed Rayo, Osasuna, or even Bilbao would finish ahead of Barca at the end??

Could've, would've... that's not an argument at all. When he was sacked he was consistent at getting shit results.

 

[JamDav1982]

Could've, would've... that's not an argument at all. When he was sacked he was consistent at getting shit results.

That is on board more so than Koeman for reasons stated.

They undermined him, wanted him gone and lied about Messi until could no longer.

He should have gone in the summer. It was over for him from moment Laporta spoke too much and played his games.

Xavi came into a far better situation.

Classic how the squad was always talked up under Koeman, injuries were his fault, he had 'agendas' against players etc.

But with Xavi.. the squad isnt good enough, he is unlucky with injuries and talk of agendas and players held up as great talents just dissapears.

It is massively over played as if Xavi achieved some miracle to get Barca back into the top four when it really wasnt.

 

[serghei]

Classic how the squad was always talked up under Koeman, injuries were his fault, he had 'agendas' against players etc.

But with Xavi.. the squad isnt good enough, he is unlucky with injuries and talk of agendas and players held up as great talents just dissapears.

Different expectations. Squad right now is easily good enough to finish 2nd and challenge Madrid for the title, which is happening so far. So very well on par with reasonable expectations, results wise.

Under Koeman, the squad was good enough for a 3-4th place finish, and Koeman had the team on 9th place after 11 games. He was performing poorly even with low-ish expectations, and was sacked as a result. Maybe he could have recovered, maybe not.

 

[El Gato]

Team was nowhere near good enough to finish in top4 sans Messi who held everything together.

Same old dogmatist clowns with rose-tinted glasses talking up anything stemming from Pep era.
Now talking up Arteta because he's Barca graduate and Pep protege. Typical stuff

 

[JamDav1982]

Different expectations. Squad right now is easily good enough to finish 2nd and challenge Madrid for the title, which is happening so far. So very well on par with reasonable expectations, results wise.

Under Koeman, the squad was good enough for a 3-4th place finish, and Koeman had the team on 9th place after 11 games. He was performing poorly even with low-ish expectations, and was sacked as a result. Maybe he could have recovered, maybe not.

No there are not different expectations.

If anything the expectations are tempered for Xavi more than they were for Koeman despite him being in situation that is infinitely better.

The squad was easily good enough to win Europa League last season and to progress in CL past groups and challenge Real this season.

It is putting it too simply to make out Koeman was sacked for shit results when that was on board more than anyone else and situation they created.

Barca were 9th place and 5 points off of 5th having played both Real and Atletico in tight games without even Pedri or Dembele let alone 60m+ in January and the free transfers that came in.

It was after ten games not eleven Koeman was sacked.

Xavi didnt come in and set world alight before his January transfers either and that was with Pedri/Dembele coming back.

 

[JamDav1982]

Team was nowhere near good enough to finish in top4 sans Messi who held everything together.

Same old dogmatist clowns with rose-tinted glasses talking up anything stemming from Pep era.
Now talking up Arteta because he's Barca graduate and Pep protege. Typical stuff

When are you claiming the team was not good enough to finish top four without Messi?

Koemans season?

Of course they were.

 

[El Gato]

Weren't until bought attackers in winter window IMO

 

[JamDav1982]

Weren't until bought attackers in winter window IMO

Last season?

Defintely should have been good enough for top four if looking at quality of squad.

There were not four squads better than Barcas at that point.

Also it didnt need a player like Messi to make that jump either. So his name is not really all that relevant.

 

[Birdy]

Team was nowhere near good enough to finish in top4 sans Messi who held everything together.

Same old dogmatist clowns with rose-tinted glasses talking up anything stemming from Pep era.
Now talking up Arteta because he's Barca graduate and Pep protege. Typical stuff

Who are the dogmatist clowns Wolfy?
Name some

 

[serghei]

It was round 11, defeat vs Rayo 1-0. Check that again.

I swear you guys get fixated on some of the most average managers around. Regardless if Xavi will work or not, Koeman's sacking was warranted. They have nothing to do with each other.

Squad was good enough to win EL last year, but the situation with the fans in the return leg vs Frankfurt hurt the team and count for a lot.

 

[JamDav1982]

It was round 11, defeat vs Rayo 1-0. Check that again.

I swear you guys get fixated on some of the most average managers around. Regardless if Xavi will work or not, Koeman's sacking was warranted. They have nothing to do with each other.

Squad was good enough to win EL last year, but the situation with the fans in the return leg vs Frankfurt hurt us.

Nope it was tenth game. Check that again.

The one fixated on Koeman is you and all the things used to blame him for that completely dissapear for Xavi when doing the same thing and making mistakes in far better situation.

 

[Birdy]

It was round 11, defeat vs Rayo 1-0. Check that again.

I swear you guys get fixated on some of the most average managers around. Regardless if Xavi will work or not, Koeman's sacking was warranted. They have nothing to do with each other.

It's audacious to tell off people for 'fixation', when you are the most fixated member ever with your take on Xavi before even he became coach.

The fact that you think ARsenal players > Barca players individually is more than telling.
You are completely out of touch with reality

 

[serghei]

Nope it was tenth game. Check that again.

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/matches/68557/rayo-vallecano-fc-barcelona-la-liga-2021-2022