Xavi Hernández

[serghei]

Yeah, add to that that Arteta is a better manager too.

He's probably the best of the current lot of young managers.

 

[Birdy]

United finished 2nd in EPL in 2021. ETH can't even match that, Ole's best results are 2nd place finish in 2021, no? And CL knockouts. Ten Hag didn't even match that.

LOL
United finished 2nd in 2021 because only City was running for the league, Liverpool had an off-season, and the others either were in decline or hadn't risen yet

Again omitting context to suit an agenda

 

[JamDav1982]

Yeah, add to that that Arteta is a better manager too.

He's probably the best of the lot of young managers.

Yet you wouldnt have said this previously and saying it now in hindsight.

That is the point.

Arteta may well be better than ETH.. it doesnt change the points made.

 

[Birdy]

Yeah, add to that that Arteta is a better manager too.

He's probably the best of the current lot of young managers.

You don't get it.
Arteta is a great manager but has the right structure behind him to support him. Pep too, Klopp too.
ETH has no structure to support him. UTD don't even have a sporting director

 

[serghei]

ETH is under ole so far dude. That's really bad. You can rationalize all you want, not gonna change this fact.

Likely to get sacked this season too.

 

[JamDav1982]

ETH is under ole so far dude. That's really bad. You can rationalize all you want, not gonna change this fact.

Likely to get sacked this season too.

No he isnt.

OIe took over a team that finished 2nd and won cups in previous seasons.

He won nothing. Then was sacked during worst season in Uniteds EPL history.

ETH took over that worst United side and won a cup and took them into top 4.

 

[serghei]

Yet you wouldnt have said this previously and saying it now in hindsight.

That is the point.

Arteta may well be better than ETH.. it doesnt change the points made.

True. It is a constatation, not a prediction.

It's an obvious fact Arteta is currently the better manager.

 

[Givenchy]

You people are obsessed with Ten Hag. I couldn't give a shit if he wins back to back CLs or gets United relegated, it has no bearing on Barca. I also don't care if United spend more money than us and buy shit players.

Bottom line here is Xavi isn't good enough and there is no excuse, 2 years in we have no defined style for a club so obsessed with Barca-DNA and our players are regressing.

 

[ajnotkeith]

ETH is under ole so far dude. That's really bad. You can rationalize all you want, not gonna change this fact.

Likely to get sacked this season too.

Can also invert your argument... ETH won them their first trophy since 2016 season.

 

[Birdy]

ETH is under ole so far dude. That's really bad. You can rationalize all you want, not gonna change this fact.

Likely to get sacked this season too.

How exactly is he under OLe, when Ole had the worst season in the recent history of UTD, and that's what he inherited to ETH to start off

Because you say so?
LOL
As good as your takes on Xavi before taking over

 

[serghei]

ETH can turn this around, but he is in a really bad spot. If he somehow makes the top 3 this season... kudos to him... but don't see it. His team is in shambles.

 

[JamDav1982]

True. It is a constatation, not a prediction.

It's an obvious fact Arteta is currently the better manager.

Arteta has achieved more than ETH as coach to date.

May in future but not for now.

 

[JamDav1982]

ETH can turn this around, but he is in a really bad spot. If he somehow makes the top 3 this season... kudos to him... but don't see it. His team is in shambles.

They most likely wont make top four.. Arsenal didnt for 3 1/2 years under Arteta though if that is the debate.

 

[Birdy]

You people are obsessed with Ten Hag. I couldn't give a shit if he wins back to back CLs or gets United relegated, it has no bearing on Barca. I also don't care if United spend more money than us and buy shit players.

Bottom line here is Xavi isn't good enough and there is no excuse, 2 years in we have no defined style for a club so obsessed with Barca-DNA and our players are regressing.

He is relevant, because he was a coach we should have gone for in 2021, and he still is a perfect replacement for Mister "I don't have a fucking clue how to coach a team" if he is free when Xavi gets the sack

 

[serghei]

They most likely wont make top four.. Arsenal didnt for 3 1/2 years under Arteta though if that is the debate.

If they don't make top 4, he's done most likely.