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Porque

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Yes Xavi is out of his depth here and I am the first one who thinks he can't turn things around. However, things are not that simple. It's not like there are 10 fantastic managers waiting to take over Barca right now. The easiest thing to do is to fire Xavi and than what? Who would replace him now? I sincerely hope people are not serious about Marquez taking over because he would probably be another bad experiment. This club needs a top manager with clear vision for the next 2-3 seasons.

IMHO the right thing to do is to hire a new long term solution in summer and not now. We simply can't afford to make another mistake. Furthermore, we should start talks with potential new managers right now and than make the right long term decision in summer. Firing Xavi now would basically change nothing. We would be in a situation we were when we fired Valverde and that ended up horribly. Making harsh decisions without a clear plan is foolish and risky.

Xavi makes it until the end of the season unless we look like missing out on the CL qualification.

Logically if we go trophy-less without contention in any trophy and with a downgrade in our onfield performances then we need to look at a solution for next season. One who can convincingly make the most of the squad we have today.

BUT, there is one other piece of data. If you look at 3 of the last 12 CL winning managers, or even stretch that to the last 15 champions league winners, then you will see that 20-25% of the recent CL winning sides have made managerial changes during the season, which is quite a stunning statistic considering it is the premier club competition in Europe.

So in a sense, given our trajectory and comparing it to those Bayern and Chelsea(x2) teams, a change right now may actually increase our chances of winning said Cup crazily enough.

And we all know there is no chance of it happening under Xavi, especially given his record in Continental KO games both in Europe and Asia, and his record against German/English sides with us.
 

Raketa10

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Barca is jobs for the boys and the boards always think short term and never want to take tough decisions that may upset public.

For instance lets say Real had Pedri, Gavi and they thought too similar.. they would sell one and move on for better balance in midfield... Barca board.. never would.

Lets say Xabi Alonso gave word he would take job at some point... Barca wouldnt take him as he isnt club legend Xavi and has Real Madrid past.

Barca are run as a political entity to remain in power for as long as can rather than a proper business with decisions for long term good of club.

Exactly! As long as we don't move from our past we won' have a future. We probably wouldn't hire Xabi Alonso because he played for RM and De Zerbi because he is Italian and not Spanish. However we will consider Marquez because he is a club legend. As long as we continue thinking like that nothing will change.

I am not saying either one of those 2 should be our new manager. However, the club needs to make a list of potential managers based solely on their competence and not nationality or connection with the club. After the list is made we should go and talk with those people and see if they have a clear vision for the club's future. Only than our sporting area should make a final decision who the next coach should be. That's a process that can last for 2 or 3 months and not 2 or 3 days.
 

Sorin

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It’s not even that he fucked up the tactics from the get go, bigger names have fucked up before, like Pep against us in 2015 when we had MSN, could’ve been 3-0 inside the first 15 minutes because, like Xavi last night, he went ahead with high line as well. But he rectified it within minutes after he saw the massacre which was about to unfold.

Not Xavi though, he continued with a high line for much of the first half, while having as disorganised press as you could possibly see. RM was unbothered and never went out of first gear, that’s how easy Xavi made it for them. Each and every time RM attacked with purpose behind our lines, it was chaos.

Second half begins and what do you see, the same fucking team that was demolished in the first half, Bob as fourth mid instead of third attacker, Pedri barely being able to run after almost all year on the sidelines, same 2 men upfront, Balde as the only fucking outlet. Jesus freaking Christ, where do you even get the idea that it’s going to work, Balde can barely make a 5 meter pass let alone put a decent cross in or make any difference. Change something you dumbass, but no, all he did was look clueless on the sidelines, clapping for god knows what, then throwing a Hail Mary subbing 3 players in all at once.

Disaster.
 
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Temptation

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That's what you get when you give the assistant job to your brother, so your mum is proud of you instead of to the most capable person with necessary tactical knowledge to help the coach out in different situations.
One of the biggest aspects of successful management is self reflection and self awareness. Acknowledging your weaknesses and surrounding yourself with the right people.


Alex Ferguson was an average tactician. His strength was in his amazing man-management and task delegation. Ferguson always made sure he had a tactical wizard in his staff. He famously had Carlos Queiroz for example who was a brilliant tactician and even took charge of most of the training sessions at the time.


From what I can decipher, Xavi probably thinks he's a tactical genius because he was a legendary player. His downfall will be his ego and his lack of self awareness. Xavi would have looked like a much better manager if he had a seasoned tactician as his assistant.


If Alex Ferguson can introspect and conclude that he requires help in the tactical department then who tf is Xavi as a manager?! :lol:
 

Sorin

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We are currently in a battle for third/fourth spot with Atletico and Bilbao, we probably have as tough schedule as you could possibly imagine; I wonder what this genius, Laporta, will do in case we are about to miss top 4 with 8-9 matches to go.

I would give him 5 more matches in La Liga, if it’s more of the same and we look like missing out top four then it’s time to pull the cord.
 

BJJ

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I would rather take a chance and sack Xavi now and bring in Flick.
Xavi's "project " is going nowhere but down and the sooner we get rid of him the better.
He is an arrogant, entitled cunt and got away with it as a player. As a manager though he's being exposed brutally. The whole club has become toxic with him. He needs to leave and no more Barca DNA bullshit. Best man for the job. Based on merit only.
 

Windhook

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Xavi looked devastated, his resignation is close it seems. Laporta and Deco will not sack him, they have no other options. Rafa Marquez has not won a single match since November, unlike Sergi Barjuan, he lacks the experience.
 

JamDav1982

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Worst part of his set up last night is he has done this before.

Last season at home to Man Utd he put Araujo RB to cover Rashford and Alonso CB.. literally before the game on here it was discussed that ETH will immediately put Rashford through the middle and target Alonso in that set up.

What happened?

Exactly that.. Rashford played off of Alonso the whole game and run Barca ragged... while Araujo remained at RB.

History repeating itself.
 

Raketa10

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I would rather take a chance and sack Xavi now and bring in Flick.
Xavi's "project " is going nowhere but down and the sooner we get rid of him the better.
He is an arrogant, entitled cunt and got away with it as a player. As a manager though he's being exposed brutally. The whole club has become toxic with him. He needs to leave and no more Barca DNA bullshit. Best man for the job. Based on merit only.
Why Flick? What has he done that's so special that you would hire him? When he won 2019/20 CL with Bayern he inherited the team from Niko Kovac. Additionally, that season of CL was the strangest one ever. Without spectators and played on one game from 1/4. Next season he went out in 1/4 of CL. With Germany he did absolutely nothing. Why the fuck would he be a good candidate?
 

Loki

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Xavi looked devastated, his resignation is close it seems. Laporta and Deco will not sack him, they have no other options. Rafa Marquez has not won a single match since November, unlike Sergi Barjuan, he lacks the experience.
I don't see it. Resignation for a coach is suicide for his further career. Who would hire a coach if there's always a threat that he resigns during bad times. Also nobody will waive his salary.

Flick would be an awful choice. He never could repeat his half season success again (which was a only a strange covid triple anyways). In Bayern he started intern drama and disputes when negative results started to appear and this way he also blackmailed his way out of Bayern to take his dream job as Germany's coach, only to fail there as well.
 

JamDav1982

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Some reports that the 'heavy weights' in dressing room have lost all faith in Xavi and his tactics while Deco doesnt rate him.

It is Laporta call now.
 
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