1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

[God Serena]

This is bad. It almost felt like an ultimatum to me. If the situation does not improve I will leave, pretty much.

I highly doubt Luis Enrique and the club will reverse their roles for the next season. If not this means the end of Ter Stegen at our club, I am afraid.

Too bad. But you know what? If he does not have an one iota of patience, let him go, there is nothing we can do. We will have to look for the next big GK talent then.

So getting tired of two seasons not playing consistently when you're a multi title winning keeper with limited minutes is not having "One iota of patience"? How long do you expect him to wait? One more season? Two? Until Bravo retires? How absurd.

Good thing most footballers have a tad more fighting spirit than you then.

There's a difference between "Fighting spirit" and "Sitting on your ass and waiting". He's done enough to prove he's good enough to play for us consistently. No matter how well he plays, he'll never get Bravo's spot. There is nothing to fight for.

 

[spark]

Kid is getting impatient. He should either wait or gtfo.

Yea I mean 4 or 5 years isn't that long

 

[Trickykid]

There's a difference between "Fighting spirit" and "Sitting on your ass and waiting". He's done enough to prove he's good enough to play for us consistently. No matter how well he plays, he'll never get Bravo's spot. There is nothing to fight for.

Oh please. As far as I know, he's been here for a bit longer than the half a season deadline you yourself would have found reasonable, hence why he's already shown plenty fighting spirit.

 

[JackSparrow]

I'm starting to have more and more respect for this guy. He's competitive and he believes in himself which is important, specially for a keeper. Also his 'dont f*** with me to Alves on the bench shows he's the real deal! r-e-s-p-e-c-t!.

Anyway seems like he believes he is worldclass therefor sitting 2 years on the bench for Bravo is a lot to ask from him. Having him sit two more years would be absurd for him. Remember this is not Johnatan dos Santos, this is actually a world class keeper.

That being said, I think Bravo is doing an unexpectively great job and I still want to see him in top 11. Perhaps loaning him for two seasons (like Chelsea loaned Courtois to Atl. Madrid) would be ideal for both sides. Barca and TS cos in the future I want him to be here.

 

[Luftstalag14]

So getting tired of two seasons not playing consistently when you're a multi title winning keeper with limited minutes is not having "One iota of patience"? How long do you expect him to wait? One more season? Two? Until Bravo retires? How absurd.

Absurd? He is getting decent amount of games and very important ones, not like his is a total bench player that some folks made it out to be. I concur the situation which saw him getting injured and ceding the starting GK position very unfortunate, but what is the club supposed to do when Bravo is also playing very well (not less so than Ter Stegen) and has been winning games for us? In my opinion the club did the best they could to utilize two very good keepers.

Bravo will be 33 in three weeks and his form might not last too long. I wish Ter Stegen had a bit more patience to at least have one more season with us even if the situation did not change. He should know that he is still young as a GK and the future is definitely his if he were to stay. If playing for us at some of the highest and most prestigious stage of the game such as CL does not persuade him to stay with us, then I'd say let him leave.

I am a big fan of his and I have always defended him, I will be very disappointed, sad and bitter if leaves, but we can't keep someone who is not happy here.

 

[vlad]

if situation does not change next season i can understand ter stegen if he decide to go. Give la liga to stegen and CL to bravo, situation will be same, bravo would not be happy and u just cant keep 2 WC keepers in a team for a long time



edit: if lucho wants better option for the club in long terms he will keep ter stegen and sell bravo.

 

[barcanuck]

I just don't get what is wrong with playing CL and Copa. Most #1 goalies play CL + Liga and the Copa is left for the backup. This isn't your regular backup. If anything Bravo should be choked he hasn't touched a ball in the CL in his life.

 

[KingMessi]

You could just switch the roles. Let Ter Stegen play week in, week out.

CL and Copa isn't enough because we won't make runs to the final every year. And he doesn't get to play regularly with that.

 

[Yannik]

He is getting decent amount of games

What is a decent amoung of games in his situation? He's a goalkeeper, he would expect to play every minute he is fit. We shouldn't act like this 2 goalkeeper-setup is anything common in football. Especially because he probably didn't even know that he would participate in some sort of tandem-situation when he signed a pre-contract with Barca. Barca DID kinda fuck him over in this regard, and he accepted it at first. Who knows if he even had moved to Barca in the first place, had he knew about Bravo. The fact that he comes up with this after 1 and a half year is already quite patient from him.

 

[Trickykid]

My hope is that they'll change roles next season. Not just because it could make MAtS stay put, but also because Bravo deserves a shot at the ChL - a prospect that could convince the Chilean to accept a swap in roles without too many complains too.

I don't think the fact that MAtS is so publicly vocal about his dissatisfaction with his current role does him much good, though, and frankly I could see Lucho become stubborn on the matter, and not bowing down to an ultimatum like that.

 

[Luftstalag14]

What is a decent amoung of games in his situation? He's a goalkeeper, he would expect to play every minute he is fit. We shouldn't act like this 2 goalkeeper-setup is anything common in football. Especially because he probably didn't even know that he would participate in some sort of tandem-situation when he signed a pre-contract with Barca. Barca DID kinda fuck him over in this regard, and he accepted it at first. Who knows if he even had moved to Barca in the first place, had he knew about Bravo. The fact that he comes up with this after 1 and a half year is already quite patient from him.

Barca fucked him? Oh please. Ter Stegen was signed under the premise of being the starting goalkeeper and the main GK for many years to come for sure and Bravo was bought as a fail-safe, a back-up, based on what I know. However, Ter Stegen got injured unfortunately so Bravo had to step in and play, and luckily enough for us he was damn good. When you are playing very well and winning games, why should you be substituted?

 

[Luftstalag14]

My hope is that they'll change roles next season. Not just because it could make MAtS stay put, but also because Bravo deserves a shot at the ChL - a prospect that could convince the Chilean to accept a swap in roles without too many complains too.

I don't think the fact that MAtS is so publicly vocal about his dissatisfaction with his current role does him much good, though, and frankly I could see Lucho become stubborn on the matter, and not bowing down to an ultimatum like that.

Exactly. That's what I am afraid of.

If I were Ter Stegen I would approach the club to start those talks instead of talking to the media like that. Just say "no comments" to the media should be enough when these questions arise.

 

[Yannik]

Barca fucked him? Oh please. Ter Stegen was signed under the premise of being the starting goalkeeper and the main GK for many years to come for sure and Bravo was bought as a fail-safe, a back-up, based on what I know. However, Ter Stegen got injured unfortunately so Bravo had to step in and play, and luckily enough for us he was damn good. When you are playing very well and winning games, why should you be substituted?

Yes, he was signed with the premise of being a starting goalkeeper, and the decision from Barca to not keep that promise and make a Cl/CDR vs La Liga tandem was already decided before the season was evenunderway. He was only injured for a couple of weeks, not a whole season.
Barca got Bravo, a goalkeeper that costed just as much as him, and was just as rated as him. From the first minute he was signed everyone knew already that this isn't just any any back-up, but that they are actually going for 2 goalkeepers instead of one, to see who comes out on top. Do you think Ter Stegen was particularly happy with hearing about his signing just weeks after arriving with hopes at the club?

 

[KingMessi]

Yes, he was signed with the premise of being a starting goalkeeper, and the decision from Barca to not keep that promise and make a Cl/CDR vs La Liga tandem was already decided before the season was evenunderway. He was only injured for a couple of weeks, not a whole season.
Barca got Bravo, a goalkeeper that costed just as much as him, and was just as rated as him. From the first minute he was signed everyone knew already that this isn't just any any back-up, but that they are actually going for 2 goalkeepers instead of one, to see who comes out on top. Do you think Ter Stegen was particularly happy with hearing about his signing just weeks after arriving with hopes at the club?

Not just weeks, he had agreed to come here months before Bravo was even rumored.

 

[Yannik]

Not just weeks, he had agreed to come here months before Bravo was even rumored.

well yes that's what I said earlier. He did not know that he was going to compete with an equal for a starting spot and this information would have surely mattered in his decision to sign or not sign a contract for Barca.