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Where was Zico's record back when Muller got the 86 I ask. It emerged when an Argie beat Muller's.
TABLE: Leo #Messi 2012 (88) VS Gerd Muller 1972 (85) #fcblive Stats in details (by competition, opponents...)
LINK: https://twitter.com/BarcaStat/status/279241795601309696/photo/1/large
Interesting that Muller only had 3 penalties. Of course, a larger percent of his goals came against so-so teams, but you really have to hand it to Muller. 82 goals from open play in one year. Ridiculous.
hahahaNo one was interested in this record before Khaled figured it out
Isnt it an Anerican award? They usually dont rate " soccer", Phelps isthe favourite imo cause of his records and accomplishments, Messi and Bold to be favourites as well with vettel as dark horse.Nominated for Laureus World Sportsman of the year award. I think Messi will win this year as he has got so much media exposure, and lets be honest, with all doe respect to other nominees, his performance just was in a another level.
Nominees: Usain Bolt, Mo Farah, Lionel Messi, Michael Phelps, Sebastian Vettel, Bradley Wiggins
Gala is held in Rio de Janeiro 11.3.2013
I don't think so, only 3 times of 13 have American sportsman won it. Another thing though is that sportsman from team sport has never won it.Isnt it an Anerican award? They usually dont rate " soccer", Phelps isthe favourite imo cause of his records and accomplishments, Messi and Bold to be favourites as well with vettel as dark horse.
As far I know a football player has never won the award, would be nice if Leo won it.
Roger Federer (tennis player): "Messi and I show that good guys can also be successful, and enjoy life in the meantime." [diario ole]
Ain't that the truth, yeah I'm looking you resident evils, Nadal and Cronaldo.
Nominated for Laureus World Sportsman of the year award. I think Messi will win this year as he has got so much media exposure, and lets be honest, with all doe respect to other nominees, his performance just was in a another level.
Nominees: Usain Bolt, Mo Farah, Lionel Messi, Michael Phelps, Sebastian Vettel, Bradley Wiggins
Gala is held in Rio de Janeiro 11.3.2013
Despite Nadal is a friend of CR, it doesent mean that he's a similar person, indeed, he s just the opposite.
Nadal, Federer and Messi are very similar persons, good guys, low profile, without superstar attitudes.
..and btw Nadal said several times that Messi is the best player.
"Messi is the best player I've seen in history. It is good for the sport, even as a rival, enjoyed watching him." (MD)
excluding penalties and goals against lower division:
Messi = 72 goals (88 - 14 penalties - 2 goals vs Cordoba).
Gerd Muller = 70 goals. (13 vs lower division, 3 penalties, including a penalty vs lower division team = 85-15)
So its even !
It's not that simple, penalties that you yourself got aren't easier to score overall, penalties that you team mates got, perhaps. Messi himself got 4 of those 13 penalties. But if we are going that route, next on the line are tap in's, and I can assure you, Müller scored a lot more those, a lot.That's not a super valid comparison though. First, goals against lower division teams are still harder to score than penalties. Second, if you take out Muller's matches against lower division teams, he played a significantly lower number of matches than Messi.
I'm not trying to belittle Messi's achievement. In think, on balance, his goalscoring has been more impressive than Muller's. I was just sorta shocked to find out that Muller only had 3 penalties. It makes his achievement better than I thought it was.