Daniel Alves

[serghei]

Yeah only Scolari would have won a worldcup with Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Cafu, Lucio, Gilberto Silva, Roberto Carlos etc.

Would have, would had etc. etc. Deal with facts man. He won it, he deserves respect and appreciation. End of.

 

[JamDav1982]

You didnt answer me is Maxwell>Fillipe Luis?

No hes not but managers dont pick players on purely who is the best player but who fits their style and their squad.

Scolari puts a lot of emphasis on the personality of the players and he may prefer Maxwell as an attacking threat compared to Filipe on a system that he uses two DMs.

Or it could be that he thinks Mawell will be better for the squad as a back up player or even fresher coming off this season than Filipe will be.

There a whole host of reasons why he may choose someone who is not the better player over all.

It remains to be seen if he is right.

 

[serghei]

You didnt answer me is Maxwell>Fillipe Luis?

No. But Marcelo is.

 

[JamDav1982]

No necessarily true... A manager plays a part, but when he won it he had one of the greatest ever teams in the history of football.

No person is unquestionable, especially if the reason given is something that happened over a decade ago.

That team was nowhere near one of the favourites before the tournament started and were in turmoil.

Scolari did a huge job with them.

Pure ignorance to start suggesting they were a team of world beaters who anyone could have managed.

 

[serghei]

There a whole host of reasons why he may choose someone who is not the better player over all.

It remains to be seen if he is right.

Exactly. See Reina's case. The atmosphere around and within the team is very very important in a WC campaign. Players stay there for a month or so. It's like a family, friendship matters.

The rest of the players don't even know Luis and Miranda. Maxwell plays with Silva at PSG, they know each other both on and off the field. Silva is also the captain.

 

[serghei]

That team was nowhere near one of the favourites before the tournament started and were in turmoil.

Scolari did a huge job with them.

Pure ignorance to start suggesting they were a team of world beaters who anyone could have managed.

Copa America 2001, quarterfinals:

Brazil - Honduras 0-2.

 

[Cule4life]

So just because Thiago Silva doesnt know Fillipe and knows maxwell he shouldnt be selected? What this a buddy competition? They are professionals and should be able to play with other professionals irrespective of their buddy level

And reina is 3rd goalkeeper and unlikely to play any minutes. Plus you could say he's good enough to be 3rd goalkeeper. Not remotely the same case as Fillipe Luiz

And wth ppl twisting facts. WC 2002 Brazil was by far the biggest favourite. All tournament hype was on the 3 R's-Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho. Dont know which world cup you watched

 

[JamDav1982]

So just because Thiago Silva doesnt know Fillipe and knows maxwell he shouldnt be selected? What this a buddy competition? They are professionals and should be able to play with other professionals irrespective of their buddy level

Who is claiming that?

For what it is worth managers do think like that.

 

[serghei]

So just because Thiago Silva doesnt know Fillipe and knows maxwell he shouldnt be selected? What this a buddy competition? They are professionals and should be able to play with other professionals irrespective of their buddy level

And reina is 3rd goalkeeper and unlikely to play any minutes. Plus you could say he's good enough to be 3rd goalkeeper. Not remotely the same case as Fillipe Luiz

No, it's not a buddy competion, but it is a team competition. And if you are trying to suggest you could make a team of 11 players who have played together just a month and you could win the WC with that team, than you live on a different planet.

 

[Cule4life]

For what it is worth managers do think like that.

And those would be managers like Sabella, Scolari who are idiots

 

[Cule4life]

No, it's not a buddy competion, it is a team competition. And if you are trying to suggest you could make a team of 11 players who have played together just a month and you could win the WC with that team, than you live on a different planet.

Im sorry how much has Maxwell played? I bet my house Fillipe will perform better than him if given a chance in case Marcelo is not available. A team is made with good players first and Maxwell is average at best

 

[JamDav1982]

And those would be managers like Sabella, Scolari who are idiots

Sabella who has drastically improved the Argentina national team and Scolari that has won a World Cup. Yes those are two.

Go and read Alex Fergusons book about how he picked an intl squad. He left out many of the better players for reasons other than ability.

 

[Cule4life]

Yes in the world of serghei and Jamdav, their is some great reason that the mighty Romero who doesnt even play for his club is selected over Caballero. Continue living in your own world, i want to be a part of the real world. Adios muchachos......

 

[JamDav1982]

Yes in the world of serghei and Jamdav, their is some great reason that the mighty Romero who doesnt even play for his club is selected over Caballero. Continue living in your own world, i want to be a part of the real world. Adios muchachos......

I would rather he played Caballero but Sabella has his own reasons and he has improved the team.

You just cant understand how managers choose to build a squad other than on pure ability, thats the problem.

 

[serghei]

WC 2002 Brazil was by far the biggest favourite. All tournament hype was on the 3 R's-Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho. Dont know which world cup you watched

Odds before the tournament:

1. Argentina 8/2 to win.
2. France 4/1 to win.
3. Italy 6/1 to win.
4. Brazil 7/1 to win.

So, Brazil was 4th favourite at the title.