Ivan Rakitić

[Sumlit]

Sure, if the system they play in is different from ours then of course they won't be suited for us. For example, Bale would be a lot worse for us then for Real because he's not particularly good at passing and dribbling. Just because he plays in La Liga doesn't mean he would do well for us.

I don't necessarily agree about Bale. He'd have less space and would have to work around that, but I think he would have a lot more scoring chances at Barca than he had at Madrid.

I definitely don't see where you're getting the dribbling part, both Pedro and Alexis are not great dribblers, definitely inferior to Bale even with less space.

 

[Semi-Neutral]

But by that logic you can say anyone is a good signing and that they will play better here. Why not sign Crouch? He plays well for a mediocre team, surely he'll be even better at Barca!

 

[BarcaJack]

@Semi-Neutral So you think a player who plays in the same league would come to Barca and play worse?

Isco was great in Malaga and just so so in RM.

 

[Sumlit]

But by that logic you can say anyone is a good signing and that they will play better here. Why not sign Crouch? He plays well for a mediocre team, surely he'll be even better at Barca!

Is this in response to my comment?

 

[Vilarrubi]

@Maria So you think Fabregas would get as many successful through balls if he was playing at Sevilla with Carlos Bacca as a lone striker?? lol

Rakitic's mentality is the least thing you should worry about. Winning the Europa League for a start........ and this.......

He has proved whatever the occasion or opponent the pressure doesn't get to him, Cesc looks a completely different player against harder teams.

 

[Semi-Neutral]

No, to Vilarubi's. About what you said, I certainly think that Pedro and Alexis are better dribblers than Bale, and I feel like his chances come either from counters or when he has space to cut inside and shoot, both of which would be less available here than at Madrid.

 

[spark]

@Maria So you think Fabregas would get as many successful through balls if he was playing at Sevilla with Carlos Bacca as a lone striker?? lol

Rakitic's mentality is the least thing you should worry about. Winning the Europa League for a start........ and this.......

He has proved whatever the occasion or opponent the pressure doesn't get to him, Cesc looks a completely different player against harder teams.

Barcelona isnt the only team Cesc has played for. Two winning penalties in two European championships penalty shoot outs >>>>>> any pressure Rakitic has faced in the Europa freaking league

 

[Sumlit]

No, to Vilarubi's. About what you said, I certainly think that Pedro and Alexis are better dribblers than Bale, and I feel like his chances come either from counters or when he has space to cut inside and shoot, both of which would be less available here than at Madrid.

Yeah I definitely don't agree about the dribbling. Both Pedro and Alexis are pretty mediocre dribblers. Pedro has never averaged a dribble per game in his career and Alexis does a lot of pirouettes with the ball but never actually beats a player, much more likely to trip on his own feet or the ball. Bale would not be as good a dribbler without the space, but I doubt he'd be worse than these two.

He thrives in space, but he also has a strong shot, is a good finisher and is not afraid to shoot. He also has the physicality, speed and size that our forwards lack. What he would lose in freedom he would gain in taking and converting chances created for him by Messi and the midfield. I think Bale would get a TON of scoring chances for Barca.

 

[Vilarrubi]

@Semi-Neutral WTF? lol!! I said that players who come to Barca will be better than there previous team which is 9/10 correct. Would Crouch be better at Barca than Stoke? YES. Why the hell are you suggesting that I think they should sign anyone even Crouch?? lol

 

[Vilarrubi]

@spark So based on Cesc scoring two penalties under pressure he has proved himself? I think that is probably the LAST thing on earth Barca look at when looking at Cesc. He has proved he can't play in the big games, he looks lost.

 

[Maria]

@Maria So you think Fabregas would get as many successful through balls if he was playing at Sevilla with Carlos Bacca as a lone striker?? lol

Yes, I do because if it's one thing Cesc is good at is this..if he was having more throughballs with Arsenal than with us then why wouldn't he have as many with Sevilla?

I don't necessarily agree about Bale. He'd have less space and would have to work around that, but I think he would have a lot more scoring chances at Barca than he had at Madrid.

Why do you think that when we have such a difficult time these days at creating chances against a team like Atletico?

 

[spark]

@spark So based on Cesc scoring two penalties under pressure he has proved himself? I think that is probably the LAST thing on earth Barca look at when looking at Cesc. He has proved he can't play in the big games, he looks lost.

You are the one who said Rakitic could deal with pressure by citing the micky mouse cup.

 

[BBZ8800]

Don't worry about Rakitic's mentality.

For example, in Croatia's national team, he never disappears or hides on the field.
For example, Modric often hides on the field, even though he is supposed to be the key player.
But with Rakitic, you almost always get a good game, no matter is it against weak or strong opponents.
He is very consistent in NT matches.

He was awesome, for example, on Euro 2012 against Italy and Spain.
Modric was much weaker and he disappointed fans.

Also, he played virtually on all midfield positions for NT team.
Dmc, Mc, Mr, Ml, Amc.
He was good on all positions and in all roles. Very polyvalent player.

 

[Vilarrubi]

@Maria LOL! you think Carlos Bacca gives as many opportunities for through balls as Barca's attack? To carry on from that.... you think Sevilla's attack gives as many opportunities for through balls as Bergkamp/Ljungberg/Henry/Adebayor/Van Persie????????

 

[zanela]

The problem I've here is the insistence on people trying to make a case for Rakitic in relative terms. He's a bit faster, more hard working than Cesc. Hence a perfect fit for Barca. How many of you thought he'd a barca profile whilst he was still playing at Schalke, or in his early time at Sevilla, rather how many here wanted him in the summer of 2013? For a Barca MF space is at a premium, the brain needs to work faster than the feet, its not so much about pure ball skills, but intelligence that makes a Barca CM tick. Does Rakitic have the required temperament and tactical understanding to thrive in a diff set-up than he's accustomed to? Its why Cesc failed. Now Rakitic could well prove his critics wrong in due course. But so far, his advocates haven't brought forward any compelling arguments in his favor.

@Zanela lol

So all you could muster was one piece of play. Quite a specialist this Rakitic.