Thanks for the picture but that only shows PSG was meeting with De Jong's agent, that itself does not indicate it was 99% done.
Also, the AS article and what you said De Jong said at the time could be interpreted as him being diplomatic. Of course, make no mistake, that offer from PSG was very appealing and I am sure if we didn't go for him he would have signed with you guys. I was always under the impression that prior to Bartomeu going to Amsterdam we never actually submitted a formal offer, there was just talks of us wanting De Jong. This may or may not be true. Nevertheless, what we still don't know to this day is whether the offer we offered him which he accepted was lower or higher than what PSG offered him (I am not talking about the transfer fee paid to Ajax, I am talking about wage and bonus etc.). If it was lower than what PSG offered him, respect to him. If it was higher than what PSG offered to him, of course that made him even happier and I personally don't have a problem with it.
Now, going back to De Ligt. I saw a picture someone posted of Nasser, Henriques(?) and Raiola talking to one another. Not sure when and where that picture was taken. PSG offered him reportedly a 5-year contract which pays him 15m per year, and 90m to Ajax and who knows how much to Raiola. That is just the starting point. If De Ligt likes it, he would choose you guys. We will see. I hope he will choose us but I am not optimistic.
The picture you are trying to paint for De Jong is that he is a greedy guy who signed with us because we gave him more money. OK, let's agree on that for the sake of the argument here. Again, base on your logic, wouldn't De Ligt naturally choose PSG since you guys offered much more than we did?? You can't have it both ways.
Thanks for the picture but that only shows PSG was meeting with De Jong's agent, that itself does not indicate it was 99% done.
Also, the AS article and what you said De Jong said at the time could be interpreted as him being diplomatic. Of course, make no mistake, that offer from PSG was very appealing and I am sure if we didn't go for him he would have signed with you guys. I was always under the impression that prior to Bartomeu going to Amsterdam we never actually submitted a formal offer, there was just talks of us wanting De Jong. This may or may not be true. Nevertheless, what we still don't know to this day is whether the offer we offered him which he accepted was lower or higher than what PSG offered him (I am not talking about the transfer fee paid to Ajax, I am talking about wage and bonus etc.). If it was lower than what PSG offered him, respect to him. If it was higher than what PSG offered to him, of course that made him even happier and I personally don't have a problem with it.
Now, going back to De Ligt. I saw a picture someone posted of Nasser, Henriques(?) and Raiola talking to one another. Not sure when and where that picture was taken. PSG offered him reportedly a 5-year contract which pays him 15m per year, and 90m to Ajax and who knows how much to Raiola. That is just the starting point. If De Ligt likes it, he would choose you guys. We will see. I hope he will choose us but I am not optimistic.
The picture you are trying to paint for De Jong is that he is a greedy guy who signed with us because we gave him more money. OK, let's agree on that for the sake of the argument here. Again, base on your logic, wouldn't De Ligt naturally choose PSG since you guys offered much more than we did?? You can't have it both ways.
It was in the report of de Telegraaf...
Have you memory trouble ?
I refer you to the post in de Jong thread around 21/22/23 Januray and after...
I even see a post where i announced he had stopped following Real Madrid and you liked the answer from Givenchy who was wondering why he was following Real Madrid if he was a true fan.
Around those pages, everyone here was astonished by the fee and the salary offered by Barcelona but now you want to tell me it was all about love for Barcelona ?
Raiola has many clients in PSG. Maxwell, our vice sporting director is a Raiola boy (he kinda works for him for some obscure stuff). It is not at all surprising to see him with some PSG top figures.
Anyway, i will not spend more time trying to convince you that i think de Ligt will go to Barcelona and not to PSG. It is my personal conviction that he will go 100 % to Barcelona. Thus, i'm not invested in his saga.
I'm not painting any picture about de Jong : just revisit your very own forums, your own reactions and the one of your fellow Barça fans at the time.
The father of de Jong himself at the time said he would prefer Barcelona but it was to see if the financial side would be covered. De Jong himself says Barcelona has followed him since a long time and that they have their financial situation but he is happy they were serious and that getting play time helped him take his decision.
Isn't that obvious to you that 1) he prefers Barcelona over any destination but 2) the financial offer and playing time were decisive factors of his choice ?
Sam Lee that is well informed on City (who was on the mix) and who posted that quotes i took from the 21 or 22 on de Jong thread :
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I really don't get why you are so defensive about money. Yes, Barça players love their money as much as other players in the world. Messi prefers Barcelona but still, you have to cough up his 100 M (number reported with all the signing bonus + his tax penalty paid by Barça) for him to be happy. There is nothing to be ashamed of. Your club makes big money and players are the central actors of the club activity. Seems pretty normal that they ask top dollar without having to be called greedy.