FinBarcelonafan
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Looks similar spaghetti hair as he had in world cup
Neymar Jr.
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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wtf is this
CatalinR10
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Rassvet
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he looks great dawg
Joan
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Everything went downhill after his father died, didn't it? Yes, immense talent, he'd surely reach the goat tier based on pure talent.
khaled_a_d
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Don't think he will ever have achieved the Ballon either. He was more into the Ibra territory that on the R9.
As for Neymar, I won't put him in same tier as Ronaldinho. At least peak wise (Neymar likely to have more durability)
R10 lead a team to CL victory after 14 years of draught. Neymar has yet to achieve that.
Ronaldinho last season with Barca was derailed with injuries. He basically had 4 years here. Didn't have Eto in the 1st, didn't have Messi in the 1st two and in next two Messi season were cut short. Never mind that wasn't anywhere near peak Messi, or even old Messi.
.Ronaldinho was ten times the player Neymar is. Until this era obsessed with numbers and stats, this wouldn't have been a comparison. Yes, Ronaldinho was unprofessional, but his talent is ten times more than what Neymar showed. Let's not forget that back then, there were higher quality defenders, yet Ronaldinho absolutely pissed on them. His peak was short, due to to his outfield antics, but he is one for the most naturally talented players in history, and he was the catalyst that propelled Barca from an almost-club to being the best team in the world.
Some ketchup with too.
FinBarcelonafan
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Spaghetti dor loading
Bobo32
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A Ronaldo game vs Roma all stars from 2017 popped up in my recommendations the other day - what a player! 30kg overweight (if that's enough) nowadays but the technique as smooth as ever, as was the timing of his runs and the feel for combinations. He also always seemed to have a nice personality.
Neymar is closer to Robinho than Ronaldo, talent wise. Of course Ronaldo had his carreer destroyed in a way.
Neymar is closer to Robinho than Ronaldo, talent wise. Of course Ronaldo had his carreer destroyed in a way.
BBZ8800
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Andresito mentioned numbers.
Today rich teams are way richer and they have allstar teams.
In the past, there were 4-5 title contenders in each country.
Today you have Juve, Psg, Bayern winning 9 out 10 league titles, breaking records of wins and goals scored.
Roughly, let's say that in 90s, the difference between Juve/Psg/Barca and 13th placed team was 60:40 or 65:35.
Today it is closer to 80:20 or 90:10.
If I would make a list of top50 best individual goalscoring seasons, let's say Messi 2015, Messi 2018, Messi 012, R9 1997 etc, imo, out of 40-45 places out of top50, we would see players from the last 10 years.
I won't even mention Messi and Cr7.
But even Lewa, Suarez, Neymar, Benzema, Immobile have better or similar stats to prime Gerd Muller, Van Basten or Batistuta.
Neymar's league goals mean shit in a current stat-inflated era.
Also, CL wise, Muller and Van Basten played 3-4 CLs in their career and won 2-3 of them plus World cups or Euros.
Neymar will have 10 CL attempts, 4 attempts with Messi and 3 with MSN.
Yet, his stats are miles better than of all time greats like Van Basten and Muller.
Outside of a statpadding league records, the better indicator are CL titles and Wc/Euros/Copa Americas where the competition is similar to 70s or 90s.
About Ronaldinho being overrated: he won the WC aged 22.
And turned Barca who was worse than today into a machine after 6 Months.
And in the first season he was without Etoo, Deco, Messi, Guily, Larsson.
He played with finished Kluivert and Saviola.
Ronnie on his shoulders brought Barca to being the best club in Europe.
What has Neymar done?
1. 1 CL in 4 seasons with prime Messi (and still having Xavi, Busi, Iniesta, Dani).
2. going MIA each season in spring
3. winning 2 leagues in 4 seasons with Barca, lol.
4. doing more or less nothing with Psg and Brasil
5. rolling, diving, fighting with everyone
Putting Ronaldinho and Neymar in the same sentence is a blasphemy.
Today rich teams are way richer and they have allstar teams.
In the past, there were 4-5 title contenders in each country.
Today you have Juve, Psg, Bayern winning 9 out 10 league titles, breaking records of wins and goals scored.
Roughly, let's say that in 90s, the difference between Juve/Psg/Barca and 13th placed team was 60:40 or 65:35.
Today it is closer to 80:20 or 90:10.
If I would make a list of top50 best individual goalscoring seasons, let's say Messi 2015, Messi 2018, Messi 012, R9 1997 etc, imo, out of 40-45 places out of top50, we would see players from the last 10 years.
I won't even mention Messi and Cr7.
But even Lewa, Suarez, Neymar, Benzema, Immobile have better or similar stats to prime Gerd Muller, Van Basten or Batistuta.
Neymar's league goals mean shit in a current stat-inflated era.
Also, CL wise, Muller and Van Basten played 3-4 CLs in their career and won 2-3 of them plus World cups or Euros.
Neymar will have 10 CL attempts, 4 attempts with Messi and 3 with MSN.
Yet, his stats are miles better than of all time greats like Van Basten and Muller.
Outside of a statpadding league records, the better indicator are CL titles and Wc/Euros/Copa Americas where the competition is similar to 70s or 90s.
About Ronaldinho being overrated: he won the WC aged 22.
And turned Barca who was worse than today into a machine after 6 Months.
And in the first season he was without Etoo, Deco, Messi, Guily, Larsson.
He played with finished Kluivert and Saviola.
Ronnie on his shoulders brought Barca to being the best club in Europe.
What has Neymar done?
1. 1 CL in 4 seasons with prime Messi (and still having Xavi, Busi, Iniesta, Dani).
2. going MIA each season in spring
3. winning 2 leagues in 4 seasons with Barca, lol.
4. doing more or less nothing with Psg and Brasil
5. rolling, diving, fighting with everyone
Putting Ronaldinho and Neymar in the same sentence is a blasphemy.
KingLeo10
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Van Basten played like 7-8 seasons of CL and Muller played at least 6, maybe 7. It wasn't 2-3 CL wins in 3-4 seasons.
Stop skewing numbers DELIBERATELY and we will take your points more seriously.
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