Pep Guardiola

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DennyCrane said:
And that is actually the part of the whole thing that drives me nuts. Since the WC in 2006 we're flooded by NT/Bundesliga marketing campaigns & media-"debates" about the rise of Bundesliga ad nauseam. While the former only serves the purpose to suck NT and club gloryhunters/Modefans in to sell 'em jerseys and shit, the latter are just downright annoying.
But this astroturfing strategy actually worked:
The typical german football fan now, let's just call him Hans, is so obsessed about the domestic league and the UEFA coefficient that he perceives even watching another league as an act of treason. Hans is typically armed with a low intellect, a german NT fankit (the official one, of course) and a bottle of Oettinger. In the wild, you can usually find him at "public viewing" (yeah, we actually called it that) events bawling songs of Oliver Pocher or Mickie Krause, if he's not already chanting the completely unsuspicious "Sieg, Sieg !"... most of the time before the match has even started. Hans is ready to defend his league at all costs by using reasoning and logic that would have made Kurt Gödel kill himself.
The worst part is that Hans is not alone, and the DFB marketing scheme aims at these people while branding real football fans as criminals and hooligans.

German TV-commentators, mainstream-pundits and media folks are made of the same cloth as Hans. It's impossible to watch an international match with a german participant without being reminded every 30 seconds how for example Hammerschmiede Augsburg almost played in that stadium in the 1960s or that Uwe Seeler once upon a time used the stadium toilet. Media coverage of international tournaments usually consist of what feels like an 8-hour documentary on Holger Badstuber and Manuel Neuer eating Weisswurst. And don't even get me started on the print-press - delving into that would go way too far. In a nutshell: They all want to please the Hans, so they offer him what he ordered.

The Guardiola deal takes all this to a new level: Pictures of Guardiola in Lederhosen are funny, the bullshit media-frenzy around this deal is not: " Is the Bundesliga more attractive than La Liga, is it more prestigious than the EPL, will Bayern now sign Busquets, will Bayern now sign Neymar, will Bayern now sign Pedro, will Bayern now sign everyone build a base on the moon and play against themselves there, end the Mideast conflict and solve the world hunger problem ???"... all the fuckin time. And it hasn't even really started yet. Just wait until July.

To get back to the La Liga vs Bundesliga debate here: Don't go into the same trap as Hans and the media-frenzy fuckheads. Leagues aren't comparable. Both leagues are cool - the hype is not. Watch 'em both and enjoy it ffs.
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Witty post :)

Bundesliga is still far less annoying than EPL. My last comparison, honest :)
 
FCBarca

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Witty, agreed...But I'm with Bojan, English commentators & fans are worse, IMO

I'd also add that spoof vid of Pep makes a not so subtle dig that Spaniards are lazy - strange to imply that with Pep however
 
Stric

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That's a pretty bold argument coming from a country that hasn't paid a cent of their WW2 debt since 1990. :lol:
 
DennyCrane

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Bojan said:
Witty post :)

Bundesliga is still far less annoying than EPL. My last comparison, honest :)
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FCBarca said:
Witty, agreed...But I'm with Bojan, English commentators & fans are worse, IMO

I'd also add that spoof vid of Pep makes a not so subtle dig that Spaniards are lazy - strange to imply that with Pep however
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Gotta admit that I don't watch the EPL much so I can't really comment on that. Although from what people are writing on this board about english fans and media, there seems to be some serious glory-hunting and fandumb going on in England.

Bojan said:
You can hear complaining in German media how Germany pays for Spanish debts while their clubs owe money to their state.
http://euobserver.com/economic/115620

So, indirectly, one could argue that Germany sponsors Spanish clubs.
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Should be taken with a grain of salt though because Mrs Pop quotes a Bild headline which is a tabloid with a strong political agenda. German MEP Elmar Brok is a bribable Bertelsmann Media lobbyist.
Sadly, it became a common thing to brand the people in Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal etc. as lazy and somewhat unwilling to solve their own problems in the german media and a growing number of backwater dumbtards over here are more than willing to buy this. It's never mentioned that Germany and France mainly bailed out their own banks with the ESM ( who are the main donors of these countries). It's also deliberately forgotten that Germany benefits the most from the EURO and the European Union and that the economic weakness of the aforementioned countries is a direct result from completely inflated unit labor costs in Germany. It's almost unnecessary to mention that the whole bail-out thing is a clear violation of the Maastricht Treaty. What we see now is an overdue reallocation process.
But I'm getting carried away: I'm not fond of such articles as they don't tell even half the truth and I just want to say that not all germans are rolling with this.

Stric said:
That's a pretty bold argument coming from a country that hasn't paid a cent of their WW2 debt since 1990. :lol:
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The Two Plus Four Agreement from 1990 is a de-facto peace treaty - therefore it was rightfully agreed that no further reparations have to be made.
 
Yugo Count Dante

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DennyCrane said:
And that is actually the part of the whole thing that drives me nuts. Since the WC in 2006 we're flooded by NT/Bundesliga marketing campaigns & media-"debates" about the rise of Bundesliga ad nauseam. While the former only serves the purpose to suck NT and club gloryhunters/Modefans in to sell 'em jerseys and shit, the latter are just downright annoying.
But this astroturfing strategy actually worked:
The typical german football fan now, let's just call him Hans, is so obsessed about the domestic league and the UEFA coefficient that he perceives even watching another league as an act of treason. Hans is typically armed with a low intellect, a german NT fankit (the official one, of course) and a bottle of Oettinger. In the wild, you can usually find him at "public viewing" (yeah, we actually called it that) events bawling songs of Oliver Pocher or Mickie Krause, if he's not already chanting the completely unsuspicious "Sieg, Sieg !"... most of the time before the match has even started. Hans is ready to defend his league at all costs by using reasoning and logic that would have made Kurt Gödel kill himself.
The worst part is that Hans is not alone, and the DFB marketing scheme aims at these people while branding real football fans as criminals and hooligans.

German TV-commentators, mainstream-pundits and media folks are made of the same cloth as Hans. It's impossible to watch an international match with a german participant without being reminded every 30 seconds how for example Hammerschmiede Augsburg almost played in that stadium in the 1960s or that Uwe Seeler once upon a time used the stadium toilet. Media coverage of international tournaments usually consist of what feels like an 8-hour documentary on Holger Badstuber and Manuel Neuer eating Weisswurst. And don't even get me started on the print-press - delving into that would go way too far. In a nutshell: They all want to please the Hans, so they offer him what he ordered.

The Guardiola deal takes all this to a new level: Pictures of Guardiola in Lederhosen are funny, the bullshit media-frenzy around this deal is not: " Is the Bundesliga more attractive than La Liga, is it more prestigious than the EPL, will Bayern now sign Busquets, will Bayern now sign Neymar, will Bayern now sign Pedro, will Bayern now sign everyone build a base on the moon and play against themselves there, end the Mideast conflict and solve the world hunger problem ???"... all the fuckin time. And it hasn't even really started yet. Just wait until July.

To get back to the La Liga vs Bundesliga debate here: Don't go into the same trap as Hans and the media-frenzy fuckheads. Leagues aren't comparable. Both leagues are cool - the hype is not. Watch 'em both and enjoy it ffs.
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GiantKiller

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DennyCrane said:
And that is actually the part of the whole thing that drives me nuts. Since the WC in 2006 we're flooded by NT/Bundesliga marketing campaigns & media-"debates" about the rise of Bundesliga ad nauseam. While the former only serves the purpose to suck NT and club gloryhunters/Modefans in to sell 'em jerseys and shit, the latter are just downright annoying.
But this astroturfing strategy actually worked:
The typical german football fan now, let's just call him Hans, is so obsessed about the domestic league and the UEFA coefficient that he perceives even watching another league as an act of treason. Hans is typically armed with a low intellect, a german NT fankit (the official one, of course) and a bottle of Oettinger. In the wild, you can usually find him at "public viewing" (yeah, we actually called it that) events bawling songs of Oliver Pocher or Mickie Krause, if he's not already chanting the completely unsuspicious "Sieg, Sieg !"... most of the time before the match has even started. Hans is ready to defend his league at all costs by using reasoning and logic that would have made Kurt Gödel kill himself.
The worst part is that Hans is not alone, and the DFB marketing scheme aims at these people while branding real football fans as criminals and hooligans.

German TV-commentators, mainstream-pundits and media folks are made of the same cloth as Hans. It's impossible to watch an international match with a german participant without being reminded every 30 seconds how for example Hammerschmiede Augsburg almost played in that stadium in the 1960s or that Uwe Seeler once upon a time used the stadium toilet. Media coverage of international tournaments usually consist of what feels like an 8-hour documentary on Holger Badstuber and Manuel Neuer eating Weisswurst. And don't even get me started on the print-press - delving into that would go way too far. In a nutshell: They all want to please the Hans, so they offer him what he ordered.

The Guardiola deal takes all this to a new level: Pictures of Guardiola in Lederhosen are funny, the bullshit media-frenzy around this deal is not: " Is the Bundesliga more attractive than La Liga, is it more prestigious than the EPL, will Bayern now sign Busquets, will Bayern now sign Neymar, will Bayern now sign Pedro, will Bayern now sign everyone build a base on the moon and play against themselves there, end the Mideast conflict and solve the world hunger problem ???"... all the fuckin time. And it hasn't even really started yet. Just wait until July.

To get back to the La Liga vs Bundesliga debate here: Don't go into the same trap as Hans and the media-frenzy fuckheads. Leagues aren't comparable. Both leagues are cool - the hype is not. Watch 'em both and enjoy it ffs.
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Great post! :)
 
DB10

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Easy option to manage Bayern. Take a real challenge like Arsenal or Milan.

Gap year in Bavaria then onto Arsenal after Arsene's contact expires.. :pep:
 
Jadentheman

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Guardiola will have 278 Million for transfers hmmm.....If any team can now afford to pay the 60M Neymar buyout clause it's Bayern. Pep did say he wants Neymar right?
 
Fishdoll

Fishdoll

Bakalao
Agree on technical merit but Athletic isn't exactly showing themselves as easy to work with right now and I'm not sure Bayern would pay them a second buyout clause in two years.
 
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